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Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:41 am
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:41 am
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Nothus wrote:
I thought the cap worked by taking the 20 highest earners from the squad.
Even if Gale doesn't play he'll still be on the payroll so perhaps this is why a dispensation is needed?


My understanding is that the dispensation is needed because it’s a “live” salary cap, so some of his salary has already counted towards this season. It was the same with Sandow and Segayaro when they walked away from their respective clubs (quite rightly too).
The dispensation would be to discount his salary for the 2019 season, which of course has already started in terms of the salary cap. As above though, it should mean he can’t play at the end of the year if he recovers (unless it still keeps Cas under the live cap).
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:45 am
Posted by rollin thunder on Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:45 am
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ThePrinter wrote:
As unfortunate as his injury is it’d be nonsense for them to get special dispensation to sign a replacement. Just because his injury happened in preseason it shouldn’t be treated differently to a season ending injury that occured in Round 4 or 5. Like I said, whilst unfortunately, injuries happen and are part and parcel of sport.

Totally agree, if he is out for the season and they want a replacement then they have to cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:56 am
Posted by little wayne69 on Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:56 am
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rollin thunder wrote:
Totally agree, if he is out for the season and they want a replacement then they have to cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.

Why Wigan or Leeds?
Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:40 pm
Posted by Ruune Rebellion on Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:40 pm
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Willzay wrote:
Apparently Cas are looking into special cap dispension from the RFL to sign Gale's replacement.


Why? We didnt get one when we lost the best prop in SL to a season ending injury
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:07 pm
Posted by tigertot on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:07 pm
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Why Wigan or Leeds?


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Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:10 pm
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:10 pm
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rollin thunder wrote:
Totally agree, if he is out for the season and they want a replacement then they have to cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.


There’s been no outrage when it’s happened before at Leeds or Warrington has there?
It’s pretty simple. His salary will only count on this season’s cap if he actually plays. If he’s deregistered and doesn’t play all season, his salary won’t count on the cap. Cas won’t be able to re-register him until 2020, unless of course he recoveres quickly and other players leave so Cas have room on the cap for him to be re-registered.
I don’t see the issue. The players who play for Cas this season won’t exceed the salary cap.
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:12 pm
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:12 pm
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Ruune Rebellion wrote:
Why? We didnt get one when we lost the best prop in SL to a season ending injury


We didn’t get one when Shenton suffered a season-ending injury in the first 20 minutes of 2016. If a player appears for the club he counts on the cap for that season. Shenton and Walmsley did, so they didn’t get an excemption.
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:16 pm
Posted by CM Punk on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:16 pm
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rollin thunder wrote:
cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.


Adjusting the pay on contracts is what Wigan did in 2006 which produced a spectacular uproar from Cas fans despite not being against the actual rules at the same.



That being said, no issue at all with Cas de-registering Gale until healthy & being allowed to use the cap space on a replacement.
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Re: Gale done for 2019
Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:22 pm
Posted by rollin thunder on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:22 pm
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nottinghamtiger wrote:
There’s been no outrage when it’s happened before at Leeds or Warrington has there?
It’s pretty simple. His salary will only count on this season’s cap if he actually plays. If he’s deregistered and doesn’t play all season, his salary won’t count on the cap. Cas won’t be able to re-register him until 2020, unless of course he recoveres quickly and other players leave so Cas have room on the cap for him to be re-registered.
I don’t see the issue. The players who play for Cas this season won’t exceed the salary cap.

has it happened at Warrington and Leeds, can you prove this, i am not aware of it. If he is contracted player for 2019 which he is, and he gets injured in preseason then tough s##t. what the hell does it matter if he has played a game yet, he would be playing if not injured so he is on salary cap, unless they pay im of or release him for season.
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Post Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:27 pm
Posted by rollin thunder on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:27 pm
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little wayne69 wrote:
Why Wigan or Leeds?

because they go in to melt down if the two biggest cluns are deemed to get special treatment. remember when Cas got relegated and cried that Wigan cheated the cap, which they did, but Wigan where 3 places above Cas with Wakefield and Huddersfield above Cas. not like Wigan finished 1 point and one place above Cas was it.
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