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Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:38 pm
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:38 pm
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Yet more trolling :roll: It's not even subtle..... :CRAZY:

Hull have consistently delivered good crowds for England Internationals and FC have the 2nd Highest Average Attendance in SL. The last decade has now seen 4 England games played at the KC with the average being in excess of 22,000. The poor crowd this year is more a statement of how poorly the RFL marketed this series than anything else, with the failure to half fill Anfield a shocking effort......I was there for the first ever SL game at the KC and rate it as one of the best stadiums to watch Rugby I have ever been to, whilst Elland road is a dated soccer stadium that delivers poor views and cramp in equal measure.

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It is shocking and the blame lays fairly at the feet of the RFL and apathetic fans. For too long fans have referred to Rugby League as TGG, when they are still not prepared to travel to watch it. This is down in no small part to the RFL not having a clue how to market the game, but also with the reluctance of fans to travel and maybe fork out £100 for a day out.
The two games so far have been of a fair quality (2nd test was better) but have both featured high drama........42,000 over the 2 games is atrocious.

You seem to contradict yourself. 17k or a 22k average is good, but 27k isn’t
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:42 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:42 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
You seem to contradict yourself. 17k or a 22k average is good, but 27k isn’t

Not at all....both posts lay the blame for poor attendances this year at the feet of the RFL.....you on the other hand want to blame Hull FC and Leigh RLFC, neither of whom own the stadiums in question.......because you're a troll :SUBMISSION:
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:57 pm
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:57 pm
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Call Me God wrote:
Not at all....both posts lay the blame for poor attendances this year at the feet of the RFL.....you on the other hand want to blame Hull FC and Leigh RLFC, neither of whom own the stadiums in question.......because you're a troll :SUBMISSION:

17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:19 pm
Posted by UllFC on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:19 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.


The crowd in Hull was disapointing and I won’t shy away from that, but the Leeds game in particular has benefited from two good quality tests being played before it on the BBC to a big TV audience, the general public are far more aware that England are playing than they were 3 weeks ago. Liverpool also benefited from being the only west of the Pennines fixture.
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:15 pm
Posted by wrencat1873 on Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:15 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.


So, in Liverpool, you have 4 SL clubs in fairly close proximity to Anfield, including 3 of the "big 4" and in Hull you have 2, with the next nearest clubs being 65 miles away ?
There is also a decent track record for previous internationals at Hull but, you are so worldly wise that you think Hull shouldn't stage another game.
Nothing to do with poor promotion / advertising ??
From the people near us, many have chosen to attend Leeds, due to its close proximity and their "fondness for Elland Road", although personally, I prefer either Anfield or the KCOM.
There probably should have been a game in London, which actually may have helped with publicity etc as neither Hull, Leigh and Liverpool have the same "pull".
Anyway, series won and Elland Road should be a celebration although, for ticket sales, it may have been handy if the series stood at 1 - 1.
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:58 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:58 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.


7,937 empty seats in Hull
27,840 empty seats in Anfield
But yeah, let's rush back to Anfield :CRAZY:
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:58 pm
Posted by Ruune Rebellion on Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:58 pm
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Call Me God wrote:
7,937 empty seats in Hull
27,840 empty seats in Anfield
But yeah, let's rush back to Anfield :CRAZY:


Quite possibly, the most stupid post I’ve read on here recently and given the wakefield fans ejaculation about the speed bump that’s saying something!
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Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:27 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:27 pm
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Quite possibly, the most stupid post I’ve read on here recently and given the wakefield fans ejaculation about the speed bump that’s saying something!

Insightful as ever.
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:27 am
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:27 am
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Call Me God wrote:
7,937 empty seats in Hull
27,840 empty seats in Anfield
But yeah, let's rush back to Anfield :CRAZY:

Using that logic we should play at the Wedding Venue London Broncos use, we’d be guaranteed a full house even for England v France on a Wednesday night.
Re: Leigh and Hull
Post Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:01 am
Posted by g_balls on Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:01 am
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.



Oh it's the cities fault. I thought it was an England international not a Hull International game. I didn't realise we had to provide all the spectators for the game and they couldn't be drawn from all over England.
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