Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:59 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

Having read this thread I can see why our game is struggling, if people are moaning about the cost of a ticket? £50 to £100 is not a lot to pay for the best seats in the house. If the majority of our fans can’t afford what any other major sport would charge for a showcase event then we are stuffed. We should pitch our sport at those who can afford to pay, why should we discount tickets? That’s the best way to go bust I know. If you want top athletes then pay what it costs to produce them.

It's not the price it's the value for money.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:12 pm  

£50 to 100 a ticket is rather a lot. especially for families. For me its so much better if halving the price means doubling the attendance - nothing looks as bad as empty spaces at an event on TV. It gives the viewer the message that if no one can bother going then why should they pay attention. Those yawnion club games at Wembley where they practically gave away the tickets were a brilliant concept, forget that the game itself is dire; to someone channel hopping its the big crowd that will get noticed and it also helps get highlights on the national news. So what if they made next to nothing on the event - it gives something to build on in future

The RFL should be looking at getting big crowds first and be happy to break even. Once the crowds come then the sponsors and advertisers will pay more attention and then the prices can stealthily creep up.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:28 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

5000 at Leigh with dirt cheap tickets for England v France.

17000 at Hull for a test against New Zealand.

Both of these crowds are terrible. Neither Leigh or Hull should host an international again.

You really don’t get it do you.

When we used to sell out big grounds in the early 90’s it was because the game was united.

Those games were attended by fans from every club including amatuer clubs.

Now most of those fans feel so alienated by SL and the RFL (even some clubs in SL)they would rather do anything than support a SL show team. Thanks to snobs like you and your stupid expansionist drivel the games support has contracted not expanded.

Get them back in the fold and then you’ll fill stadiums - individually they are small but added together and they make all the difference.

Hats off to Hull as I suspect they provided most of those who did turn up.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:28 pm  

Erik the not red wrote:

For me its so much better if halving the price means doubling the attendance.

It’s a big ‘if’ tbf. It’d be interesting to know what, if any, pricing research the RFL does.

Money is definitely one of major factors. But internationals should feel like premium entertainment. I quite enjoyed the game, but this series somehow feels like it is just sort of tacked on to the end of the season as an afterthought. The crowd seemed very flat, as the commentators mentioned more than once. Can anybody genuinely say they’re nervous or excited by the outcome of these games? Even this one, which finished 18-16 and was close throughout, just wasn’t very... gripping.

It probably doesn’t help that we haven’t beat Australia in over a decade, despite being able to beat the Kiwis, who do beat Australia from time to time.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:53 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

It's not the price it's the value for money.

That is a totally different problem, being old enough I remember the sixties when the game was dying on its backside.It took a great leap of faith to move away from unlimited tackles to the six tackle & handover via four & scrum along with many other things. If the game is stagnating then it will take another leap of faith to kick start further progress. With full time athletes & scientific coaching methods many of the rules should maybe looked at again. Just don’t throw away the baby with the bath water.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:59 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

That is a totally different problem, being old enough I remember the sixties when the game was dying on its backside.It took a great leap of faith to move away from unlimited tackles to the six tackle & handover via four & scrum along with many other things. If the game is stagnating then it will take another leap of faith to kick start further progress. With full time athletes & scientific coaching methods many of the rules should maybe looked at again. Just don’t throw away the baby with the bath water.

The game wasn’t dying in the sixties, if it was it was right at the very end. It was the 70’s when it really was bad.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:01 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

5000 at Leigh with dirt cheap tickets for England v France.

17000 at Hull for a test against New Zealand.

Both of these crowds are terrible. Neither Leigh or Hull should host an international again.

Out of curiosity, did you attend the game at Leigh.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:26 pm  

RoyBoy29 wrote:

Out of curiosity, did you attend the game at Leigh.

I didn’t attend the game because it was at Leigh.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Leigh and Hull : Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:59 pm  

vastman wrote:

The game wasn’t dying in the sixties, if it was it was right at the very end. It was the 70’s when it really was bad.

During the 1960–61 season the RFL appointed a special committee to look into the causes of declining attendances, and in the April they appointed a sub-committee with a wider remit to look at the game as a whole.

The end of the RL world has been nigh since 1895. Some times have been worse than others, of course.

Re: Leigh and Hull : Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:12 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

I didn’t attend the game because it was at Leigh.

So your complaining about attendances for national games..

Ones that YOU didn't attend.

You really are a star