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Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:23 pm
Posted by rollin thunder on Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:23 pm
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[quote="the artist"]one ominous sign, and i'm sure this almost applies to the whole of the superleague is that they don't seem to be growing their fanbase. if the next tv deal is a bad one, then clubs have to offset losses by either cutting the wage bill or growing their crowds and commercial income, and they should be making efforts now in advance of the deal. i don't see too many signs that clubs are looking to do this. the poster who commented on semi pro rugby might have a point[/quote
As you say all clubs should be doing this, not just because the Tv deal may be less, but its more likely to be less in crowds keep going down it will guarantee a lesser tv deal. Big crowds gives us bigger bargaining power. but as the clubs have no voted in their preferred system they have no excuses.
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:27 pm
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:27 pm
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homme vaste wrote:
On 26th June this year we were ÂŁ336,000 below the cap, since then we have offloaded our first choice halfback in Finn, and released other players such as Mason Caton-Brown and Baldwinson - Our highest earner in Kirmond is now I imagine on a much reduced deal. We have signed CK and George King so I would imagine that puts us around 400k below the cap.

Can you provide a link to your source?
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:29 pm
Posted by wrencat1873 on Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:29 pm
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[quote="rollin thunder"]

If the next TV deal is a "bad one", the whole of SL is at risk, not just Salford.

We do have a strange deal at the moment, when attendances are deliberately harmed by the TV scheduling and then we moan about falling attendances.
With only 12 clubs in SL and games spread over 4 days, perhaps its time to incliude the top end of The Championship in the next TV deal.
Our "competition", football and Union, dont have 2/3 of their clubs on live TV every week AND they are generating way, way more than we are in TV revenue.
I know there are many reasons why but, we are spreading our product too thinly at present and it's no actually helping the game.
It really is time that we started talking up the value of the game, instead of selling it as cheaply as possible.
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:38 pm
Posted by dboy on Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:38 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
Can you provide a link to your source?


The "source" was Michael Carter himself. I think it was as part of a conversation on Twitter.
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:40 pm
Posted by fun time frankie on Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:40 pm
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vastman wrote:
Well you would think that wouldn't you - you tend to think a lot of things that have no truth in them.

Forgive me I didn’t realise I was in the presence of Wakefield’s accountant
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:29 am
Posted by vastman on Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:29 am
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Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:34 am
Posted by Clearwing on Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:34 am
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[quote="wrencat1873"]
We do have a strange deal at the moment, when attendances are deliberately harmed by the TV scheduling and then we moan about falling attendances.
With only 12 clubs in SL and games spread over 4 days, perhaps its time to incliude the top end of The Championship in the next TV deal.
Our "competition", football and Union, dont have 2/3 of their clubs on live TV every week AND they are generating way, way more than we are in TV revenue.
I know there are many reasons why but, we are spreading our product too thinly at present and it's no actually helping the game.
It really is time that we started talking up the value of the game, instead of selling it as cheaply as possible [/quote="wrencat1873"]

Sky would probably argue that their viewing figures are lowered by clubs scheduling in competition with the televised fixture on a Friday. It's a real dilemma. But I don't think Leeds, for example, would be willing to see the reduction in hospitality sales and catering takings that a shift to, say, sunday would entail. The same almost certainly applies top other clubs too.
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Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:52 pm
Posted by leedsnsouths on Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:52 pm
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How is relegation gonna work next year?

If it is just one up one down on league position then they are almost certainly going to struggle, if they have some kind of playoff then Salford can just buy a bunch of players for the last month of the season, same way they survived this year.
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:52 am
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:52 am
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The team finishing bottom of the Super League will be relegated (Salford or London).

Promotion from the Championship will be decided by a 5 team play off.
Re: Salford a ticking time bomb
Post Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 am
Posted by northmanchesterdevil on Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 am
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leedsnsouths wrote:
How is relegation gonna work next year?

If it is just one up one down on league position then they are almost certainly going to struggle, if they have some kind of playoff then Salford can just buy a bunch of players for the last month of the season, same way they survived this year.

We signed 2 players.
They have both signed for next year also.
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