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Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:02 am
Posted by Willzay on Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:02 am
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Who has the time to read all this above? Could somebody please summarise what he says in 3 sentences?


3 sentences would still be too much for you to comprehend.
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Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:43 am
Posted by wildshot on Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:43 am
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Who has the time to read all this above? Could somebody please summarise what he says in 3 sentences?


No.
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Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:06 am
Posted by Trainman on Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:06 am
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Call Me God wrote:
I like the idea of cheap beer, early retirement and world peace....doesn't mean it's coming any time soon :D
So, back to your Home Nations. Teams in Belfast, Cardiff and Edinburgh where there is little if any interest in RL will be allocated a side and funded how exactly? This is a genuine question, because for all his faults (there are loads by the way), David Hughes has sunk between £25 and £30,000,000 into London over the last 11 years and still that club relies 100% on his benevolence to exist.
These strong foundations you mention. Would this be a program of youth/schools development linked to these new clubs, with RFL funded development officers in place to assist the club put down roots in the region? I have bad news for you......the RFL have no employees in London now......none at all. If it weren't for Hector and Dave at the Skolars and Broncos, there'd be no pathway south of Sheffield......but let's say the RFL gave each of your imaginary teams 3 Development officers each......what then? Free tickets for the kids? Great....bus 'em in, but again, who pays for this?

Wakefield, Salford, Huddrrsfield and Widnes have collectively 608 years of history between them.....and in 2018 collectively averaged 4,500 between them as an average. The break even figure for a SL club is 10,000 (Nigel Hudgell).............and that's 10,000 paying £15.00 a pop...so whilst Belfast, Cardiff and Edinburgh build to get this figure of sustainable income....who bankrolls them

I'm off for a cheap pint to discuss world peace with my buddies who took early retirement :wink:


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Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:52 am
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:52 am
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Who has the time to read all this above? Could somebody please summarise what he says in 3 sentences?

If you spent less time flipping between here as Jean and the other sites you infest, then maybe you would!
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Jeez take a chill pill. That’s one massive chip on your shoulders.

Nope. It's just fatigue of years of listening to idiotic "fans" who believe that we have a god given right to have our sport played everywhere and dropping pins in a friggin map......instead of being snide, why not answer the pertinent question? Who will invest the required £100,000,000 needed to found and then support your 3 imaginary teams with sustainable roots for the first 10 years? I mean, it's only £10,000,000 a year......surely there's some rich guys in Cardiff, Edinburgh and Belfast that the RFL know want to invest.... :CRAZY: :CRAZY: :CRAZY:
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:02 pm
Posted by Joff on Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:02 pm
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It's time RU took over RL then. They clearly know how to run the sport.
Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:37 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:37 pm
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Joff wrote:
It's time RU took over RL then. They clearly know how to run the sport.

No they do not....but they are an eon ahead of RL....even the 2017 NFL season saw attendance issues, something that the Franchise owners have been in discussions about recently....no sport has a brilliant governing body, but other sports do have executives that Govern......the selection of moore sports for USA 2025 is yet another example of how badly our sport is run in both it's top tier comps.......even the NRL has seen attendances drop by close to 10% over the last decade.....it seems more TV cash results in fewer fans at games.....maybe we should adopt the Bundersliga policy of £5 to get in, but FILL THE PLACE!?
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:51 pm
Posted by wildshot on Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:51 pm
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Call Me God wrote:
No they do not....but they are an eon ahead of RL....even the 2017 NFL season saw attendance issues, something that the Franchise owners have been in discussions about recently....no sport has a brilliant governing body, but other sports do have executives that Govern......the selection of moore sports for USA 2025 is yet another example of how badly our sport is run in both it's top tier comps.......even the NRL has seen attendances drop by close to 10% over the last decade.....it seems more TV cash results in fewer fans at games.....maybe we should adopt the Bundersliga policy of £5 to get in, but FILL THE PLACE!?


Wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if games are played on a Thursday / Friday night and people can't get to them.
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Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:01 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:01 pm
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Wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if games are played on a Thursday / Friday night and people can't get to them.

Really? Soccer fans seem to cope.....
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:04 pm
Posted by Gallanteer on Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:04 pm
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Its good news if they get a team together that are good enough to join the leagues.

However, like every other club, they will have to earn the right if they want SL status.

Less geographical complications than Toronto or the currently fictional NY team, but they will get their chance if they earn it just like all the other clubs that compete in the championships. There should be no favouritism.
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Re: Dublin Blues for League One in 2020
Post Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 am
Posted by wildshot on Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 am
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Call Me God wrote:
Really? Soccer fans seem to cope.....


Excuse me for stating the blinking obvious but there are a lot more football (I hate the word "soccer") fans than rugby fans. Easier to get them in when there is a bigger fan base.

How are attendances going in the mid-week league cup in football? They are often discounted tickets but I don't see many sell outs.
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