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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:07 pm
Posted by HXSparky on Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:07 pm
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Cats are 11/4 on Skybet which feels realistic. Where are they at 14/1? That's a seriously good "value" bet!
Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:12 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:12 pm
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fun time frankie wrote:
Is that 14-1 to win the challenge cup if so that’s a ridiculous price with only four teams left

CORAL have them at 18's?????
http://sports.coral.co.uk/rugby-league/challenge-cup/2018-challenge-cup-8209660.html
Chorley John will have his giro on that 8)
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:14 pm
Posted by caslad75 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:14 pm
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^^ They were 10/1 on Sunday on SKY Bet, my Dad had me put a few quid on it for him on my account.
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Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:50 am
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:50 am
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The 14/1 price that I took recently was to win the Cup, 11/4 must be to beat Saints in the semi.

18/1 is incredible for the the team with the 2nd best form in Super League.
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Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:21 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:21 pm
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Well well well.......2 unexpected results tonight make Wakey/Leeds the "end game" for both sides.....Wakey win, they are in the top 8.......but should the Rhinos get the points, then it is going to be twitchy bum time for Wakefield given Leeds finish off with Salford and Widnes....
CATALAN 19 POINTS (-72)....Salford at Home and Wigan away =21 points
HUDDERSFIELD 19 POINTS (-228) Castleford away and Wakefield at Home = 21 points
WAKEFIELD 18 POINTS (+25) Leeds away, FC at home and Huddersfield away = 18 points
LEEDS 15 POINTS (-104) Wakefield at Home, Widnes at Home and Salford Away =21 points


There's more excitement at the foot of the table and the top of the second tier than at the top of SL.......so let's change the format again :lol:
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield
Post Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:58 am
Posted by tad rhino on Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:58 am
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indeed. middle 8's has been a great idea even though we've been in once and could be again. some clubs want a closed shop though
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Post Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:20 am
Posted by christopher on Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:20 am
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tad rhino wrote:
indeed. middle 8's has been a great idea even though we've been in once and could be again. some clubs want a closed shop though


The middle 8s might seem a good idea on the surface as it creates 'excitement' but what it also creates is uncertainty for 4 Superleague clubs which in turn means they can't plan for the following year which hinders sponsorship and season ticket sales, we as a sport simply cannot afford to have all the uncertainty for1/3rd of the top tier clubs half way through the season.

Do you think its good that teams are now throwing cash at over rated Aussies in the hope of keeping up ? and we wonder why we don't produce a load of good youngsters, if clubs know they can plan properly after having a bad season it means they are not forced to throw money they don't have at players they don't need. It's just a race to the bottom, the excitement should be at the top of the league not the bottom.

Lets say Either Leeds or Warrington last year got relegated for finishing 9th because they had a bad year, yes it will give some fans a good 'laugh' but it would be a disaster for the Superleague.
Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield
Post Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:43 am
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christopher wrote:
The middle 8s might seem a good idea on the surface as it creates 'excitement' but what it also creates is uncertainty for 4 Superleague clubs which in turn means they can't plan for the following year which hinders sponsorship and season ticket sales, we as a sport simply cannot afford to have all the uncertainty for1/3rd of the top tier clubs half way through the season.

Do you think its good that teams are now throwing cash at over rated Aussies in the hope of keeping up ? and we wonder why we don't produce a load of good youngsters, if clubs know they can plan properly after having a bad season it means they are not forced to throw money they don't have at players they don't need. It's just a race to the bottom, the excitement should be at the top of the league not the bottom.

Lets say Either Leeds or Warrington last year got relegated for finishing 9th because they had a bad year, yes it will give some fans a good 'laugh' but it would be a disaster for the Superleague.


Why would it be a disaster for Super League? Some on here are saying that having Toronto in SL will be a great benefit, and why would swapping places with Leeds (given they could be in the bottom 4 come the end of the season) be so bad for SL? If Leeds, or any other current SL team, get relegated then that will be because they have failed to perform better than a current Championship team in the M8's.

In terms of clubs throwing money at players in desperation, surely that's a relatively simple one to fix? Stop clubs from signing new players at an appropriate point in the season.

Regarding excitement, don't we want this at both the top and bottom of each league? The way it's panned out this year means that there's more interest in the bottom of SL and top of the Championship due to the number of clubs still involved, whereas the top 4 of SL is already pretty much decided. It's not talked about much, but the bottom of the Championship is tight as well, with realistically 4 teams playing for the two survival slots. Next season could be completely different.

Without P&R, the vast majority of teams would now be playing out dead rubbers. With P&R, we have around 15 teams still with very much to play for.

With a closed shop for SL, look at the table now and try and see where there's any excitement through the last few games of the season? Just a period of waiting for the top 4 teams for the playoffs to start, and meaningless games for the rest (other than potentially Hull, but overhauling Cas is pretty unlikely).
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Post Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:14 am
Posted by Kevs Head on Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:14 am
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“Lets say Either Leeds or Warrington last year got relegated for finishing 9th because they had a bad year, yes it will give some fans a good 'laugh' but it would be a disaster for the Superleague”
Was losing Bradford a disaster for Super League?
Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield
Post Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:07 am
Posted by christopher on Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:07 am
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Kevs Head wrote:
“Lets say Either Leeds or Warrington last year got relegated for finishing 9th because they had a bad year, yes it will give some fans a good 'laugh' but it would be a disaster for the Superleague”
Was losing Bradford a disaster for Super League?


Bradford were in an absolute mess on and off the field especially off the field, Leeds and Warrington are two if not the two best run clubs in Superleague. And even with Bradfords troubles they were and are a big loss to Superleague with both their crowds and junior development.
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