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Posted by Leigh_Manning on Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:11 pm
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Someday wrote:
I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week

totally untrue, but it is your opinion.
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Utterly shambolic and embarassing

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Posted by Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:59 pm
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bramleyrhino wrote:
"Whataboutism" isn't really the point here. And "naming and shaming" employers is very rarely HMRC's first resort.



I can’t see how what I said was whataboutism. I wasn’t making excuses just saying I doubt they are alone. Sadly.
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Posted by Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza on Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:00 pm
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The trade union movement are still an important part of working life for us all.
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The beauty of social media is what is written is cast in stone to contradict what the author decides to say later @drmarwanK
Posted by Zulu01 on Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:27 pm
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Someday wrote:
I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week


Absolutely correct and that's my opinion
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Posted by kobashi on Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:14 pm
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When Celtic were name and shamed few years ago, the Celtic fans protested against the club and demanded change.
Posted by Miro on Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:25 am
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Leigh_Manning wrote.."
I was a shop steward for 25 years and if it was not for unions all workers would still be going to work with a flat cap and string tied round their coats no holidays and no pay rises and working 60 hrs a week"

Leigh_Manning wrote:
totally untrue, but it is your opinion.

I worked 35 years in engineering, no union to represent us. However, every pay rise, change in working conditions etc. came about only after the unions negotiated the deal for it's own members elsewhere. We did become unionized eventually and things improved even more. The point is non-unionized places benefited from the unions too but this may seem to some, that we didn't need unions, but the working man / woman certainly did no matter where they worked.
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Leigh_Manning wrote:
said a pensioner socialist, UNIONS do NOTHING other than collect a fee and stand in the way of progress. Ask yourself, why is UNISON based in BRAND NEW offices near Euston, for the "good of the workers", why did Scargill kill the mining industry, Bob Crow ruined the Railways... the list is endless (comrade)


it was that cow thatcher that killed off the mining industry
Posted by secondstanza on Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:43 pm
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Didn't some clubs get named earlier in the year for the same thing?
Posted by homme vaste on Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:25 pm
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Lebron James wrote:
Utterly shambolic and embarassing

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I don`t seem to recall you posting such strong comments when St Helens were outed for the exact same thing around 3 or 4 months ago?
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