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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:17 pm
Posted by majorhound on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:17 pm
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:
Can you please give an example of Sky treating RL poorly?


Union has always been much bigger then League and has had a huge pot to spend.


No in the days before Super League RL had the second largest support next to soccer.
Sky treat RL appallingly. They do noting to promote it, unlike they do with cricket, soccer and every other sport they show.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:22 pm
Posted by Willzay on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:22 pm
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Don't see how anyone could argue otherwise that Sky don't give a damn about the game.
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:26 pm
Posted by majorhound on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:26 pm
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:
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Haha
...the old "big club" nonsense!!!

Its a subjective and not relevant thing which some like to pontificate.

Third biggest city???? Depends on whether you going on metropolitan areas or city boundies. Many a list of populations for Leeds include places like Rothwell, Pudsey, Garforth, Morley etc.
The Leeds Urban Sub Division had a population of 474,632 in 2011, the metropolitan district has a popution of around 715k.

declining team.

But the Manchester Metropolitan district is smaller than Leeds. Manchester doesn't include Salford or Trafford. That's hardly Leeds's fault. It all depends on what you mean by... London is the largest city in the country, but just a minute, the City of London is one of the smallest. Again whichever measure you choose, the fact remains that the only other cities with a SL side are Hull and Salford. And Salford are hardly inspirational. Indeed does anyone really know where Salford is? Is it Eccles, Irlam? Cadishead? Pendlebury? Walkden?
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:41 pm
Posted by Mild mannered Janitor on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:41 pm
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What a puzzling comment. Who on earth else would make the decision?
The only other party involved was Yorkshire who Leeds had been patiently waiting to stop being a financial basketcase for years so the north stand could be done. The South Stand project, which Leeds are mostly paying for out of their own cash reserves, was slightly contingent on what got agreed for the other side.


I would have thought the land owner would have had a decent say in proceedings.

Very much doubt it will come out of cash and they are not borrowing to have the work done
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm
Posted by Mild mannered Janitor on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm
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majorhound wrote:
No in the days before Super League RL had the second largest support next to soccer.
Sky treat RL appallingly. They do noting to promote it, unlike they do with cricket, soccer and every other sport they show.


This is the second time this has been quoted yet no evidence to back it up.

Stop making out RL is a victim here. Your post suggest RL has been singles out for poor treatment, yet you cannot state how or why.

There are plenty of trailers on sky for forthcoming RL games.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Posted by tigertot on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:48 pm
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Nobody is jumping over hurdles to advertise during RL games because it's a dour borefest coached by ex forwards.


Sky don't give a monkeys about how exciting or boring RL is. Or any sport for that matter. They care about the numbers watching on tele & the social class they are in.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:56 pm
Posted by Salford red all over on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:56 pm
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Indeed does anyone really know where Salford is? Is it Eccles, Irlam? Cadishead? Pendlebury? Walkden?


I'm not quite sure what you mean but Salford is a City made up of 20 boroughs or wards pretty much like any other city probably anywhere in the world.

Barton
Boothstown and Ellenbrook
Broughton
Cadishead
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Irwell Riverside
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:06 pm
Posted by rollin thunder on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:06 pm
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majorhound wrote:
But the Manchester Metropolitan district is smaller than Leeds. Manchester doesn't include Salford or Trafford. That's hardly Leeds's fault. It all depends on what you mean by... London is the largest city in the country, but just a minute, the City of London is one of the smallest. Again whichever measure you choose, the fact remains that the only other cities with a SL side are Hull and Salford. And Salford are hardly inspirational. Indeed does anyone really know where Salford is? Is it Eccles, Irlam? Cadishead? Pendlebury? Walkden?

Wakefield is a city, all be it a small one city proper around 80k. Perpignan city 300k
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:30 pm
Posted by Him on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:30 pm
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:
So, no actual facts here, just an opinion, to which you are entitled.

Can you provide proof that little thought or effort goes into it? What are you expecting to see?

For Terry O'Connor in RL there are countless piundits across skys sports coverage who are either not great at presenting or are there to deliberately state controvertial issues. Part of the issue, IMO is not the quality of ToC its how he comes across. Unfortunately the broad northern accent is not commonly heard on TV. John Wells comes over well as his accent is softer and less "to the point".

There is plenty of advertising of future sky games, so that is an incorrect statement. I am guessing here, but if you only watch RL on Sky, then no doubt you will miss the adverts for RL which occur when they are showing Tennis / Football / Cricket etc.

Can't have a dig at Sky for the Catalans games, that coverage is provided by Canal+.

But the question remines, what are you expecting to see, what, in your opinion would make it better?

One improvement all sports broadcasters could make is to avoid showing the coach on the bench / in the stands or the face of someone in the crowd, whent the game is still in progress!!!!


I expect to see the programme revamped every couple of years. Not the same intro sequence thats badly out of date along with the same music, some of which has been there for decades and is now cringe inducing to hear. I expect to see productions where there isn’t loss of sound or problems with equipment. The fact that nothing has changed on the Sky production for several years shows the lack of effort and the fact that you have a commentary team where at least one member can’t speak properly or clearly is an issue that has never been addressed.

I watch loads of Sky, be it Sports. Cinema, TV etc, there is not loads of advertising for RL and there certainly isn’t when it comes to Sky’s seasonal advertising.

I very much can have a dig at Sky for the Catalans games, I don’t care where they get their feed from, if the audio or pictures don’t work properly that’s their problem. I don’t pay Canal, I pay Sky.

The move from Saturday to Thursday night games, even during the football off-season is another example.

As for what would make it better? Get a new producer in, one who hasn’t been doing it for the last 20 years and has clearly “gone native”. Need rid of the deadwood, stupidly massive commentary team. Have one commentator, one contributor like every other sport manages with. Updated graphics/sound. More of the Carney/Wells stuff that actually sounds vaguely professional and less of the 5 blokes talking rubbish in a pub stuff that the commentary team give us.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:32 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:32 pm
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Regardless of how much or little they pay for the rights, the coverage should (and could easily) be better.

They own it.........they can do exactly what they want with it. There are countless accusations of conspiracy and being hard done by, but the reality is the game put itself up for sale and was sold......other sorts aren't as "compliant" or easily used....that's not the fault of the people giving us £25,000,000 + a year....it's the fault of the people taking it!
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
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