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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:33 pm
Posted by Leigh_Manning on Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:33 pm
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Its easy to support a winning side and be all high and mighty when your club is performing well.

I'm hoping Leeds end up in the m8s and struggle a bit. Hetherington will then miraculously change his opinion on the restructure.

Those Leeds fans that think they will walk the m8s if they end up there better wake up quick. In the very 1st m8s we walked it, the following year we were relegated with arguably a better team on paper. Leeds have an injury crisis and are on a losing streak. Not good signs at all.

reality is not welcome, believe the myth that the Leeds fans do.

They sing a football song, tells you everything.

Maybe in Leeds "Rugbys coming home"

(you can't doubt their loyalty though, must be tough to travel from Bradford, Wakefield, Huddersfield to join a bandwagon, only to find the wheels have come off and the conductor is blaming everyone else)
Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:34 pm
Posted by Mild mannered Janitor on Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:34 pm
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Ask yourself this, is the sport bigger or smaller than it was before licencing? Have Union not stolen a march on our game? Doesn't Sky treat us appallingly compared to the way they used to treat us?



Can you please give an example of Sky treating RL poorly?


Union has always been much bigger then League and has had a huge pot to spend.
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:41 pm
Posted by Him on Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:41 pm
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Can you please give an example of Sky treating RL poorly?


Union has always been much bigger then League and has had a huge pot to spend.

The coverage on Sky is very poor. There’s very little thought or effort put into it and clearly the coverage isn’t critiqued or reviewed within Sky because...well...Terry O’Connor.

The BBC coverage blows Sky out of the water.

Sky’s coverage of Catalans games are amateurish and worse than FreeSports coverage of Toronto.

There is little to no advertising or pushing of RL on Sky’s channels or its entire platform.

Regardless of how much or little they pay for the rights, the coverage should (and could easily) be better.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:59 pm
Posted by Leigh_Manning on Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:59 pm
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Him wrote:
The coverage on Sky is very poor. There’s very little thought or effort put into it and clearly the coverage isn’t critiqued or reviewed within Sky because...well...Terry O’Connor.

The BBC coverage blows Sky out of the water.

Sky’s coverage of Catalans games are amateurish and worse than FreeSports coverage of Toronto.

There is little to no advertising or pushing of RL on Sky’s channels or its entire platform.

Regardless of how much or little they pay for the rights, the coverage should (and could easily) be better.

why? the product is amateur, look at the officials and the declining crowds, the RFL are getting exactly what they deserve, Sky pay more for Fishing programmes because more people watch them. Nobody is jumping over hurdles to advertise during RL games because it's a dour borefest coached by ex forwards.
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Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:34 pm
Posted by Mild mannered Janitor on Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:34 pm
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Him wrote:
The coverage on Sky is very poor. There’s very little thought or effort put into it and clearly the coverage isn’t critiqued or reviewed within Sky because...well...Terry O’Connor.

The BBC coverage blows Sky out of the water.

Sky’s coverage of Catalans games are amateurish and worse than FreeSports coverage of Toronto.

There is little to no advertising or pushing of RL on Sky’s channels or its entire platform.

Regardless of how much or little they pay for the rights, the coverage should (and could easily) be better.



So, no actual facts here, just an opinion, to which you are entitled.

Can you provide proof that little thought or effort goes into it? What are you expecting to see?

For Terry O'Connor in RL there are countless piundits across skys sports coverage who are either not great at presenting or are there to deliberately state controvertial issues. Part of the issue, IMO is not the quality of ToC its how he comes across. Unfortunately the broad northern accent is not commonly heard on TV. John Wells comes over well as his accent is softer and less "to the point".

There is plenty of advertising of future sky games, so that is an incorrect statement. I am guessing here, but if you only watch RL on Sky, then no doubt you will miss the adverts for RL which occur when they are showing Tennis / Football / Cricket etc.

Can't have a dig at Sky for the Catalans games, that coverage is provided by Canal+.

But the question remines, what are you expecting to see, what, in your opinion would make it better?

One improvement all sports broadcasters could make is to avoid showing the coach on the bench / in the stands or the face of someone in the crowd, whent the game is still in progress!!!!
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:35 pm
Posted by Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza on Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:35 pm
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majorhound wrote:
Leeds is far and away the largest city in Rugby League.


London, Newcastle, Sydney, Melbourne are definitely bigger than scabby Leeds.
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:38 pm
Posted by Mild mannered Janitor on Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:38 pm
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Leigh_Manning wrote:
why? the product is amateur, look at the officials and the declining crowds, the RFL are getting exactly what they deserve, Sky pay more for Fishing programmes because more people watch them. Nobody is jumping over hurdles to advertise during RL games because it's a dour borefest coached by ex forwards.


I have done a quick search and cannot find any data to say how much Sky pay for fishing, could you please provide a link as I would be interested to know if its more then £90m they agreed to pay RL over 5 years.
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:04 pm
Posted by Mild mannered Janitor on Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:04 pm
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majorhound wrote:
Dream on old love. RL clubs don't come any bigger than Leeds. Third biggest city in the country. Magnificent stadium, fantastic backroom facilities, Saint Helens and Wigan are pokey little towns in South West Lancashire. The potential in Leeds is huge. Wigan and Saints only need a couple of bad seasons and they're scratching round for brass. Look at why Wigan had to sell Central Park. When push came to shove Wigan couldn't cut the financial mustard despite success on the field.
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...the old "big club" nonsense!!!

Its a subjective and not relevant thing which some like to pontificate.

Third biggest city???? Depends on whether you going on metropolitan areas or city boundies. Many a list of populations for Leeds include places like Rothwell, Pudsey, Garforth, Morley etc.
The Leeds Urban Sub Division had a population of 474,632 in 2011, the metropolitan district has a popution of around 715k.

Still, what does it matter the size of the city you play in. Afterall, if that was the key criteria to sporting success, then all football premier league champions would hail from London, rather than some north west back water.

Headlingley has been in need for a few quid spending on it for a long time. The frequent reductions in capacity of the old southstand, the uncomfortable seats with little leg room in the Northstand and no covered standing for visiting fans made it a relic of a place. Fair play, the south and north stands are being done. Do you think for one minute that decision was made by GH or the rhinos?

If the potential for Leeds is huge, I have some disappointing news for you. They had 10 years plus of unpresedently success. If they didnt harness that success to draw out the potential then, they are not going to do it with a declining team.
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:51 pm
Posted by The Ghost of '99 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:51 pm
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:
. Fair play, the south and north stands are being done. Do you think for one minute that decision was made by GH or the rhinos?
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What a puzzling comment. Who on earth else would make the decision?
The only other party involved was Yorkshire who Leeds had been patiently waiting to stop being a financial basketcase for years so the north stand could be done. The South Stand project, which Leeds are mostly paying for out of their own cash reserves, was slightly contingent on what got agreed for the other side.
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Re: Rhinos sack McDermott
Post Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:15 pm
Posted by majorhound on Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:15 pm
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Leigh_Manning wrote:
I'm not saying he wasn't a very talented player, just pointing out one of those talents was practically ref'ng the game. Ask any none Leeds fan, him and Burrow constantly bleated to officials.


Like Hanley, Edwards and Gregory did perhaps.
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