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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:42 am
Posted by Call Me God on Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:42 am
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Because North American teams are on the horizon now and whilst teams from lower leagues don't like it because it hurts their chances of SL, the potential they could bring the sport is huge.

I love the Wolfpack........but it's early days. London averaged 10k year one and Fulham got 30k back in the day........and lest we forget, if you don't average 10k a game, you're not profitable........so they either need to work harder or build a bigger beer tent :wink:

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I don't particularly like the concept of foreign teams in our competition, but if we accept that they are a part of our RL family then they should earn their place at the top table by winning on the field of play.

...and whilst under the same cap that the rest of the teams have to play under. The Current Toronto squad must have a fair few "volunteers" in it... :WHISTLE:
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:38 am
Posted by JEAN CAPDOUZE on Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:38 am
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It should be promotion to SL for Toronto, Toulouse, London and Bradford, with Widnes, Salford and Wakefield competing for the axe of two clubs, and their relegation to Championship where they play the likes of Halifax, Leigh and Featherstone, not to mention Sheffield.

Future space needs to be made for New York and other north American and French teams with financial backing. There should be no restraint on expanding the size of SL beyond 14 in the future, but only to accommodate successful expansion clubs.

We should aspire towards creating a north American conference and a French conference.
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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:34 am
Posted by vastman on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:34 am
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Would like to see Bulls Toronto and Toulouse together with my club in a 14 team SL 2019, much rather see a two divisions of 10 SL though


So who woukd be the two clubs that you'd get rid off ?

What makes you and the Bulls worthy of taking two spots, what could Leigh especially bring to SL that any of the existing clubs don't.

You've been in SL twice? And both times you were pathetic please explain your worth.
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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:58 am
Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:58 am
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A 14 team Super League without promotion and relegation is the best way to grow the game IMO. Keep the playoffs a top 4 competition, this will give notmal league games much more value and importance.
Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:49 am
Posted by wire-quin on Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:49 am
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Would like to see Bulls Toronto and Toulouse together with my club in a 14 team SL 2019, much rather see a two divisions of 10 SL though


Whilst forgetting to locate a team in the financial centre go Europe :)
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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:39 am
Posted by King Street Cat on Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:39 am
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These expansion/league format threads are hilarious.
Even Custer couldn't muster a stampede like this.
Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:48 am
Posted by JEAN CAPDOUZE on Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:48 am
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These expansion/league format threads are hilarious.


Why so? Are you from lowly Leigh?
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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:02 am
Posted by Judder Man on Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:02 am
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Crazy to go to 14 teams, we’ve not enough quality players at the moment to provide 12 teams. It’s obviously a gamble by the RFL to get Toronto and Toulouse in the comp and the usually exemption of these 2 teams from relegation for 2 or 3 years.
In 2019 Toronto and Toulouse will need around 40 new players of the right standard, where are these coming from, will it be from the shallow pool of players in the U.K. or an increased quota of overseas players.
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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:27 am
Posted by maurice on Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:27 am
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vastman wrote:
So who woukd be the two clubs that you'd get rid off ?

What makes you and the Bulls worthy of taking two spots, what could Leigh especially bring to SL that any of the existing clubs don't.

You've been in SL twice? And both times you were pathetic please explain your worth.


I believe Salford, Widnes and Wakefield would be the teams facing the biggest challenge of submitting a winning licence application. All are struggling through the gate and lack a sugar Daddy.
As stated my preference would be two tens, that brings London and Avignon into the mix plus any US interest
Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019
Post Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:08 pm
Posted by King Street Cat on Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:08 pm
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Judder Man wrote:
Crazy to go to 14 teams, we’ve not enough quality players at the moment to provide 12 teams. It’s obviously a gamble by the RFL to get Toronto and Toulouse in the comp and the usually exemption of these 2 teams from relegation for 2 or 3 years.
In 2019 Toronto and Toulouse will need around 40 new players of the right standard, where are these coming from, will it be from the shallow pool of players in the U.K. or an increased quota of overseas players.


Spot on. And I think we all know the answer to the last question. Then we can all go back to bitching about over the hill Aussie imports, and the whole debate about whether 14 teams should go back to 12 teams can start again.
Even Custer couldn't muster a stampede like this.
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