Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:38 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

It doesn't make any sense to increase to 14 unless the increase consists of Toronto and Toulouse.

You could still possibly have P & R if the highest Championship team other than Toronto and Toulouse gets to compete with the lowest Super League club in a MPG.

Toulouse failed to make the middle 8s last year and will again this year. Last time they was in the championship It was a disaster so what would they offer to Super League what Leigh Fev Fax and London cant

Torronto have not even played a championship game yet and buying a team of over rated granddads is not going to guarantee them middle 8s. If it becomes 14 this as to be top 6 of the middle 8s fairest way of doing it

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:57 am  

hooligan27 wrote:

If it becomes 14 this as to be top 6 of the middle 8s fairest way of doing it

I don't disagree though I doubt the current 12 SL sides are moved to expand due to a desire to dilute the TV money by accommodating two more sparsely-supported and skint heartland clubs. Could be wrong though, it might be sheer altruism.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:48 pm  

hooligan27 wrote:

Toulouse failed to make the middle 8s last year and will again this year.

How do you know this? In the off season they have strengthened in the forwards and the halves so they should be expected to do better than last year.

hooligan27 wrote:

Last time they was [sic] in the championship Iit was a disaster so what would they offer to Super League wthat Leigh Fev Fax and London can't?

Last time Toulouse was in the Championship was last year. The team's performance last year was hardly a disaster.

London is a different case to Leigh, Fev, and Fax since it is the national capital and has global name recognition unlike the other three. London also can attract talented youth from the south of England (like Michael McMeeken, Anthony Clubb and Daniel Sarginson) who would otherwise be neglected and might never make the professional level.

Toulouse's admission to Super League offers a chance to strengthen French rugby league (which will benefit the English national team), offers the televising in England on Sky of 13 more SL games, offers interesting new foreign travel for many English fans, and creates (as does Toronto) a more cosmopolitan flavour to the currently insular, mostly M62 regional Super League.

hooligan27 wrote:

Torronto have not even played a championship game yet and buying a team of over rated granddads is not going to guarantee them middle 8s.

Not one of the Toronto team is a grandfather. Nothing guarantees the team a place in the middle 8s other than being a very strong performing team.

hooligan27 wrote:

If it becomes 14 this has to be top 6 of the middle 8s fairest way of doing it

Why is it "fairer" to choose the 14 that way? The RFL might, and in fact should, have a higher ambition than just increasing the number of insular M62 teams that offer nothing to the expansion of the game's player pool, fan support and financial well being. Adding Toronto and Toulouse will add to all of these over time.


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Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:21 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote: How do you know this? In the off season they have strengthened in the forwards and the halves so they should be expected to do better than last year. Last time Toulouse was in the Championship was last year. The team's performance last year was hardly a disaster. London is a different case to Leigh, Fev, and Fax since it is the national capital and has global name recognition unlike the other three. London also can attract talented youth from the south of England (like Michael McMeeken, Anthony Clubb and Daniel Sarginson) who would otherwise be neglected and might never make the professional level. Toulouse's admission to Super League offers a chance to strengthen French rugby league (which will benefit the English national team), offers the televising in England on Sky of 13 more SL games, offers interesting new foreign travel for many English fans, and creates (as does Toronto) a more cosmopolitan flavour to the currently insular, mostly M62 regional Super League. Not one of the Toronto team is a grandfather. Nothing guarantees the team a place in the middle 8s other than being a very strong performing team. Why is it "fairer" to choose the 14 that way? The RFL might, and in fact should, have a higher ambition than just increasing the number of insular M62 teams that offer nothing to the expansion of the game's player pool, fan support and financial well being. Adding Toronto and Toulouse will add to all of these over time. N.B. Red highlighting represents correction of spelling and grammar. You seem to have a little too much time on your hands. http://checkoutchorley.com/whats-on/

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote: How do you know this? In the off season they have strengthened in the forwards and the halves so they should be expected to do better than last year. Last time Toulouse was in the Championship was last year. The team's performance last year was hardly a disaster. London is a different case to Leigh, Fev, and Fax since it is the national capital and has global name recognition unlike the other three. London also can attract talented youth from the south of England (like Michael McMeeken, Anthony Clubb and Daniel Sarginson) who would otherwise be neglected and might never make the professional level. Toulouse's admission to Super League offers a chance to strengthen French rugby league (which will benefit the English national team), offers the televising in England on Sky of 13 more SL games, offers interesting new foreign travel for many English fans, and creates (as does Toronto) a more cosmopolitan flavour to the currently insular, mostly M62 regional Super League. Not one of the Toronto team is a grandfather. Nothing guarantees the team a place in the middle 8s other than being a very strong performing team. Why is it "fairer" to choose the 14 that way? The RFL might, and in fact should, have a higher ambition than just increasing the number of insular M62 teams that offer nothing to the expansion of the game's player pool, fan support and financial well being. Adding Toronto and Toulouse will add to all of these over time. N.B. Red highlighting represents correction of spelling and grammar. You seem to have a little too much time on your hands. http://checkoutchorley.com/whats-on/

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:08 pm  

Jean - before you start using the red highlights to try and put down other posters you ought to be aware that 'illicit' is an adjective not a noun. Just saying.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:08 pm  

Just pointing out Halifax run an academy an example of one of are academy lads is Nick Rawdthore
Halifax also have a better stadium fans would increase as would money on promotion to super league
Toulouse and Torront are hardly offering anything to the completion at present
Halifax v Toulouse at the summer bash was a disaster looke dpoor on sky etc. you expect fans to travel to france I can see why you wont travel every other week but the summer bash is a one off I counted 2 French fans who proably came witht he players.. IT does not work

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:09 pm  

looking like no one will be relegated come the end of this season

the million pound game will be a dead rubber

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:35 pm  

hooligan27 wrote:

Just pointing out Halifax run an academy an example of one of are academy lads is Nick Rawdthore
Halifax also have a better stadium fans would increase as would money on promotion to super league
Toulouse and Torront are hardly offering anything to the completion at present
Halifax v Toulouse at the summer bash was a disaster looke dpoor on sky etc. you expect fans to travel to france I can see why you wont travel every other week but the summer bash is a one off I counted 2 French fans who proably came witht he players.. IT does not work

Nick Rawdthore, is that the biggest success story you could come up with? A 22 year old with 4 SL appearances under his belt..

Not rubbishing the lad by any means, i`ve seen him play and he is a decent young player that may come good but there are plenty of them all across SL and the championship.

I thought Toulouse Elite 1 side had its own Youth system? Which feeds through to the club.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:10 pm  

Ok then Halifax v wire in the middle 8s

MOM went to chester butler one of the fax academy lads plenty of upcoming players in are youth team which most the sl clubs refuse to run

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:43 pm  

hooligan27 wrote:

Ok then Halifax v wire in the middle 8s

MOM went to chester butler one of the fax academy lads plenty of upcoming players in are youth team which most the sl clubs refuse to run

Castleford
Warrington
Widnes
Leeds
Wigan
Wakefield
Hull FC
Hull KR
St Helens
Warrington

All have youth teams that`s 10 out of 12 Are you saying that you class 2 as most of SL? Think your getting mixed up with a reserve grade which is a different conversation.