Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:14 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

In the papers today it is suggesting SL will return to 14 teams in 2019

Is this the return of franchises, end of middle 8's.

Makes you wonder what's been achieved over the past few years with the reduction to 12 and the return of 'P&R".

This rumour has been doing the rounds for a while now possibly a year.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:23 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

I always thought reducing to twelve was a mistake. But i'd like to know whats changed from 4 years ago when having 12 teams was deemed a bad idea, and now having 14 teams is suddenly good. Simiarily with licensing. IMO it was a disaster for the sport.

Personally i think a simple 14 team SL, with a 5 team play-off, simple one up, one down. Maybe have a form of licensing based on facilities/player development etc where you got rewarded/penalised for the strength of those.

Just doesn't seem to be anu leadership or direction for these decisions.

I see were you are coming from and kind of agree, 14 teams home away, no magic weekend straight 26 games 6 team playoff for me, one up one down, but promotion is based on licensing, you must bring something to the top table, and any side in super league regardless of league position can be relegated if they are not ticking the 3 main boxes, attendance, stadium, player development. all super league clubs should also me able to demonstrate self funding, tv revenue should be icing on the cake not reliant on this.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:39 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Why so? Are you from lowly Leigh?

Can someone let me know when this fake idiot is off here...Bye

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:18 pm  

maurice wrote:

I believe Salford, Widnes and Wakefield would be the teams facing the biggest challenge of submitting a winning licence application. All are struggling through the gate and lack a sugar Daddy.
As stated my preference would be two tens, that brings London and Avignon into the mix plus any US interest

So as a club you've failed miserably throughout your history to be a genuine top side so now your only option is to play the franchise card. You really are a sad little pretender club with delusions of grandure.

You want our spot in SL win it like men in the pitch rather than being a cowardly sneak thief.

In fairness though you are a mirror to the game - totally lacking in morals and flushed with self interest.

Please don't come on here bleating like you lot always do when your spot goes to some club in the good old USA because their franchise was better than yours and that the Wigan area already has a much bigger and better club in SL - think on.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:24 pm  

wire-quin wrote:
In the papers today it is suggesting SL will return to 14 teams in 2019

Is this the return of franchises, end of middle 8's.

Makes you wonder what's been achieved over the past few years with the reduction to 12 and the return of 'P&R".

This rumour has been doing the rounds for a while now possibly a year.

Maybe I should have added decision imminent.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:01 pm  

RoyBoy29 wrote:

Can someone let me know when this fake idiot is off here...Bye

It is just a wind up pr1ck, IT should be banned from RLFANS.....

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:48 pm  

vastman wrote:

So as a club you've failed miserably throughout your history to be a genuine top side so now your only option is to play the franchise card. You really are a sad little pretender club with delusions of grandure.

You want our spot in SL win it like men in the pitch rather than being a cowardly sneak thief.

In fairness though you are a mirror to the game - totally lacking in morals and flushed with self interest.

Please don't come on here bleating like you lot always do when your spot goes to some club in the good old USA because their franchise was better than yours and that the Wigan area already has a much bigger and better club in SL - think on.

Might be missing something here but you ask a question and I provide a polite reply, try it someday instead of the childish abusive sheite your thick gob spouts

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:01 am  

vastman wrote:

So as a club you've failed miserably throughout your history to be a genuine top side so now your only option is to play the franchise card. You really are a sad little pretender club with delusions of grandure.

You want our spot in SL win it like men in the pitch rather than being a cowardly sneak thief.

In fairness though you are a mirror to the game - totally lacking in morals and flushed with self interest.

Please don't come on here bleating like you lot always do when your spot goes to some club in the good old USA because their franchise was better than yours and that the Wigan area already has a much bigger and better club in SL - think on.

very constructive, I feel much wiser now

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:34 am  

rollin thunder wrote:

I see were you are coming from and kind of agree, 14 teams home away, no magic weekend straight 26 games 6 team playoff for me, one up one down, but promotion is based on licensing, you must bring something to the top table, and any side in super league regardless of league position can be relegated if they are not ticking the 3 main boxes, attendance, stadium, player development. all super league clubs should also me able to demonstrate self funding, tv revenue should be icing on the cake not reliant on this.

THat looks ok on a piece of paper but, ultimately you will end up with clubs that cant perform on the pitch being protected because they have shiney seats.Remember Sheffield or, is that Huddersfield ?
Apart from Wigan, Hull FC, Wire Leeds and Saints, the rest of SL would have to go, as they all fail to tick one of your boxes.
Just like in football, TV funding is the bread and butter of most clubs income and a long way from being icing or cherries on the top of the cake and it's ok to say, let's relegate certain clubs but, who are you going to replace them with.

There would be a major issue with replacing ANY club with another club say, from the championship, that may have been getting 3/4000 fans for their home games but promising to get 10,000 if they get into SL.
Not having a pop at Leigh, as they certainly deserved their shot in SL but, due to the huge step up from the Championship, it could be argued that they offered less to the comp than the relegated club, KR.

Promotion and relegation have to be decided on the field of play and not by men in suits who can fix the criteria to progress their own agenda.

THe problem with RL is that there is no fecking plan and the sport continues to stumble along, looking for innovative ideas, which they dont stick with for anything like long enough.

Anyone with half a brain could see that cutting the numbers in SL from 14 to 12, was wrong and low and behold, 4 years later the talk is of needing 14 clubs in the top flight.

Also, IF the sport is keen to expand, the current 3 x 8 system is quite ridiculous.

Again, as Leigh found this season, getting to SL is only the start of the battle and with the current system, ANY promoted club will inevitably end up in the "qualifiers" and in real danger of facing the drop the following season.

Re: SL to return to 14 in 2019 : Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:46 am  

It does look like another knee-jerk reaction from our beloved leadership team.

Has anyone ever seen a long term plan from the RFL to improve the game - I sure as hell haven't. It's time we appointed someone who could actually lead this sport forward and not just jump from one hair-brained scheme to the next every couple of years.

If 14 teams is the way forward then show us the long term plan that puts a structure in place that allows rugby league to develop and expand. Sadly I won't be holding my breath as I don't believe that it will ever appear under the current regime.