Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:40 pm  

UllFC wrote:

Hull Daily Mail had a thought provoking article the other week, explaining that the new NRL deal gives a minimum salary of about £69k and an average wage of £200k.

They used the example of someone like Scott Taylor being on approx £80-100k and therefore being able to double his wages by being just a squad player in the NRL. Good for England's development but worrying for SL as i'm not seeing masses of talented youngsters to replace our already dwindling nunber of big name stars.

I see that as a good thing
If sl player goes over there for a higher wage other than the money the benefit is to be trained and coached at the highest level, they either make it in the NRL and bolster the England team like Sam burgess and widdop or they don't make it and come back to SL and grind out a decent living, everyone wins

If they are good enough and wasn't it enough they will make it over there

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:40 pm  

musson wrote:

Slightly stunned by any one that wouldn't want bennet to stay on

That's about as close as we have being to beating them in as long as I can remember, we were a couple of % away from beating them today

The Ryan Hall fingertip no try in 2014 in Australia?

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:14 pm  

UllFC wrote:

Hull Daily Mail had a thought provoking article the other week, explaining that the new NRL deal gives a minimum salary of about £69k and an average wage of £200k.

They used the example of someone like Scott Taylor being on approx £80-100k and therefore being able to double his wages by being just a squad player in the NRL. Good for England's development but worrying for SL as i'm not seeing masses of talented youngsters to replace our already dwindling nunber of big name stars.

It’s completely realistic that any England player could double their salary by going to the NRL. I don’t know why any of them would stay in Super League, the salary cap has risen so quickly, It’s gone from;
2006 $3.6 million
2010 $4.3 million
2014 $6.3 million
2018 $9.4 million

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:07 pm  

Not as straightforward as just about money though. It's a huge thing to move your family to the other side of the world. In McGillvery's case his young lad is at Man City's academy so wouldn't want to move him from there. Wife's and girlfriends aren't all stay at home spending the credit cards like footballers WAGS and have jobs and careers too.

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:55 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Not as straightforward as just about money though. It's a huge thing to move your family to the other side of the world. In McGillvery's case his young lad is at Man City's academy so wouldn't want to move him from there. Wife's and girlfriends aren't all stay at home spending the credit cards like footballers WAGS and have jobs and careers too.

indeed , money not everything, sometimes family is more important and alot that go over dont settle... joe wardle one recent case

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:57 pm  

Liam Watts turned down Newcastle Knights this year, which I believe to be not wanting to be apart from his kids

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:51 pm  

If the RFL raised the salary cap by another £1m, how many team's would struggle to raise revenue to accommodate the expenditure

Re: Wayne Bennett : Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:59 pm  

RoyBoy29 wrote:

If the RFL raised the salary cap by another £1m, how many team's would struggle to raise revenue to accommodate the expenditure

Probably all but Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Warrington and possibly Hull. Which is part of our problem. One reason why SL quality isn't great is that we're placing all the responsibility for dealing with income inequality on the richer clubs to avoid spending, rather than on the poorer clubs to raise their incomes and spend more. There needs to be an increase, and it needs to be quick, because the Aussies will be looking harder at our remaining international class players now, and they've plenty of cash to wave around.

Re: Wayne Bennett : Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:55 am  

I can't believe some of the rubbish on here about Bennett. That is the first time we have competed in a must win game against them since 2003, when the Kangaroos brought probably their worst squad in 30 years to England. The reason we lost that game is that we just didn't have enough quality in 1, 6 and 7 to create tries. We've heard for years that our pack was as good/better than theirs - this time it actually was. Give England any one of Slater, Morgan and Cronk and we'd have won that.

What Bennett really changed was defence. Whilst we bemoan our lack of creativity etc, Australia, who had been scoring for fun were only able to manage one try, and for most of the second half were almost no threat at all. I have NEVER seen an England team do that to them in defence, including the times we've beaten them since 1982.

Also, re Widdopp I think its unfair to say he isn't a stand off. He was basically the only attacking playmaker and always on the right. No surprise he struggled to get killer passes away and took some dumb risks at times.

Bennett was conservative, but in the end Betts probably picked most of the fringe players like Brown, and he wouldn't have picked either Bateman in the centres or Heighington at all if he'd had clearly better options available. Does anyone seriously think if he had a left centre as good as Watkins on the right that he wouldn't have picked him? Or played someone other than Gale/Brown if they were standouts?

Personally whilst gutted for the loss, I couldn't be prouder of the effort we put in. That's the third game I've been to in Brisbane vs Australia, and the first where we looked like we belonged on the same field as them.

Re: Wayne Bennett : Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:50 am  

James Graham spoke up for Wayne Bennett at the post match interviews. That is good enough for me.