Re: "loose carry" : Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:12 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote: A famous wembley no try https://twitter.com/Halifax_RLFC/status ... 2909896706 Looked foward to me.

The Chair Maker wrote: A famous wembley no try https://twitter.com/Halifax_RLFC/status ... 2909896706 Looked foward to me.

Re: "loose carry" : Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:50 pm  

On the biff, if the plan is to start something I'd be looking at the first kick by one of our players. Australia for years have got away with dubious late hits on kickers - especially with one ref. Klemmer absolutely smashed Hayne after he'd kicked for Fiji early on. The ref missed it and Hayne ended up giving a penalty for shoulder charging Slater soon after. Somebody twatting Klemmer in that situation would highlight the fact he did it, and also let the Aussies know that England won't get pushed around by them. I doubt it would put Australia off their game but you never know.

Re: "loose carry" : Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:02 am  

The Chair Maker wrote: A famous wembley no try https://twitter.com/Halifax_RLFC/status ... 2909896706 That’s video is a fantastic example of what is considered a loose carry. The defender has every right to tackle the ball/ball carrying arm, the ball was knocked out in the initial impact. There’s a big difference between that and reefing the ball which occurs after the initial impact.

The Chair Maker wrote: A famous wembley no try https://twitter.com/Halifax_RLFC/status ... 2909896706 That’s video is a fantastic example of what is considered a loose carry. The defender has every right to tackle the ball/ball carrying arm, the ball was knocked out in the initial impact. There’s a big difference between that and reefing the ball which occurs after the initial impact.

Re: "loose carry" : Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:09 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

On the biff, if the plan is to start something I'd be looking at the first kick by one of our players. Australia for years have got away with dubious late hits on kickers - especially with one ref. Klemmer absolutely smashed Hayne after he'd kicked for Fiji early on. The ref missed it and Hayne ended up giving a penalty for shoulder charging Slater soon after. Somebody twatting Klemmer in that situation would highlight the fact he did it, and also let the Aussies know that England won't get pushed around by them. I doubt it would put Australia off their game but you never know.

Very good call.

Re: "loose carry" : Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:14 am  

Trainman wrote:

That’s video is a fantastic example of what is considered a loose carry. The defender has every right to tackle the ball/ball carrying arm, the ball was knocked out in the initial impact. There’s a big difference between that and reefing the ball which occurs after the initial impact.

Similar thing happened in Hull FC's only big moment of the 2013 CC Final. Shaul makes a break, Charnley chases back and dislodges the ball whilst making the tackle - knock on. Hull FC fans didn't moan about it though. Change that ruling and attackers will be dropping the ball left, right and centre to get a penalty.

Re: "loose carry" : Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:58 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41536394 Pause the video in the above link on around 50 seconds. Do people think this shouldve been a scrum down, head and feed to Castleford? No. It was an absolutely brilliant try saving tackle from Danny McGuire which dislodged the ball from Edens grasp, went forward and was kicked out by a Leeds player. Scrum feed to Leeds. To me this is no different to Whiteheads effort on Fifita. Brilliant try saving tackle causing Fifita to spill the ball forward. Had there been time left in the game a scrum wouldve rightly been awarded to England.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41536394 Pause the video in the above link on around 50 seconds. Do people think this shouldve been a scrum down, head and feed to Castleford? No. It was an absolutely brilliant try saving tackle from Danny McGuire which dislodged the ball from Edens grasp, went forward and was kicked out by a Leeds player. Scrum feed to Leeds. To me this is no different to Whiteheads effort on Fifita. Brilliant try saving tackle causing Fifita to spill the ball forward. Had there been time left in the game a scrum wouldve rightly been awarded to England.

Re: "loose carry" : Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:23 pm  

http://www.totalrl.com/column-cecchin-a ... iticising/ This is one of best pieces I’ve seen written about it.

http://www.totalrl.com/column-cecchin-a ... iticising/ This is one of best pieces I’ve seen written about it.

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Re: "loose carry" : Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:14 pm  

Shaw's spot on in that article.

That Pendlebury tackle is a blast from the past. Don't recall anyone complaining about it at the time. In fact Elia got flak from Murphy for the way he held the ball.

Re: "loose carry" : Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:25 am  

Bullseye wrote:

Shaw's spot on in that article.

That Pendlebury tackle is a blast from the past. Don't recall anyone complaining about it at the time. In fact Elia got flak from Murphy for the way he held the ball.

I'm not sure what they could complain about. Was stealing in the tackle still allowed then? It changed to one-on-one ball steal in the mid-90s?

[Bullseye]

Re: "loose carry" : Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:43 am  

tigertot wrote:

I'm not sure what they could complain about. Was stealing in the tackle still allowed then? It changed to one-on-one ball steal in the mid-90s?

Good point, ball steals allowed in 87 no matter how many in the tackle. That makes me ask, why did they change the rule? The game then wasn't stifled by ball stealing. In effect the one on one rule on it has created a lot of controversy.