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Re: Brazil make international debut
Post Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:00 pm
Posted by the artist on Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:00 pm
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we need to get an emerging nations tournament going in the next world cup as we did in times past. putting these teams straight into a full WC would just mean tonkings and a lot of players with dubious connections playing which won't grow the game. you could play the games as curtain raisers or as stand alone/double headers and make all tickets a fiver, give some to schools and RL clubs and (shock horror) actually do a bit of promotion for it. of course if we do this in 2021 this would also be an ideal comp for a canadian team to enter ahead of the north america world cup. germany, canada, ukraine, russia, south africa, spain, cooks could all play.

what other nations would fit the bill?
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Re: Brazil make international debut
Post Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:50 pm
Posted by shinymcshine on Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:50 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
So you think New Zealand having a national team is ridiculous, despite the fact they won the World Cup in 2008.


I find it ridiculous that as a sport RL has been around for over 100 yrs but globally can still barely sustain more than a couple of dozen full time professional clubs.
Re: Brazil make international debut
Post Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:15 pm
Posted by headhunter on Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:15 pm
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How many teams are there in Brazil?

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There are four different groups in different states working independently, apparently they didn't know each other existed until fairly recently. As for how many teams and what level of activity each of them have, I don't know because I don't speak Portuguese.
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Post Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:17 pm
Posted by headhunter on Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:17 pm
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shinymcshine wrote:
What I find ridiculous is countries standing up with National teams when there is minimal domestic competition in existence in that country.

National representation should be the aspirational pinnacle for domestic competitors, not a replacement for the domestic game.
There would be similar domestic activity in most of these nations to Tonga, do you think Tonga don't deserve to have a team? Nonsensical viewpoint.

As for there only being a handful of pro teams after 100 years I agree, but why is that the fault of people trying to develop the sport now? Maybe if someone had done this 50 years ago there would be pro teams in other places.
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Post Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:44 pm
Posted by Lebron James on Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:44 pm
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headhunter wrote:
There are four different groups in different states working independently, apparently they didn't know each other existed until fairly recently. As for how many teams and what level of activity each of them have, I don't know because I don't speak Portuguese.


Decent start then. Hopefully they can build on it

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Re: Brazil make international debut
Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:11 am
Posted by glee on Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:11 am
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About ten years ago there were some very promising developments coming from Cuba. Much of it was due to the work and enthusiasm of Phil Melling. At the time there would appear to have been little interest shown by the Rugby League authorities and sadly Phil shortly after passed away. He was someone who was well respected in his home town of Wigan and later in South Wales where he had gone to live.
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Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:42 pm
Posted by spookDU2018 on Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:42 pm
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shinymcshine wrote:
Wasn't there a big push a few years ago with Jamaica, Russia and South Africa having developing international RL teams, none of which are at the RLWC now.


It took me three minutes to find the relative Facebook and websites of the three nations mentioned...all showing fantastic local development ... also check out the 2017 Wikipedia for World Cup qualifying .. you will see all three were involved in the qualifying competition

You might want to also check out the Balkan Superleague competition run by the entrepreneurial Serbians ... which is perhaps the most exciting grass roots development currently in the game!
Re: Brazil make international debut
Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:53 pm
Posted by headhunter on Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:53 pm
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glee wrote:
About ten years ago there were some very promising developments coming from Cuba. Much of it was due to the work and enthusiasm of Phil Melling. At the time there would appear to have been little interest shown by the Rugby League authorities and sadly Phil shortly after passed away. He was someone who was well respected in his home town of Wigan and later in South Wales where he had gone to live.
I'm aware of Phil Melling, he was a good guy. But not sure where you've got the info from regarding Cuba as I don't ever remember any mention of there being any type of RL presence there.
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