Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:09 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

The Tongan squad is packed with NRL and SL players amd are well drilled.......they were run close by a Lebanon side who would have treated this game as their final....Tonga would have been hard pressed to back up after the elation of turning the Kiwis over and believe me, 30,000 Tongans' cheering them on at Mt Smart will make for probably the most intense atmosphere that any of the England players will have ever faced.

Give over. The games in the southern hemisphere, all atmospheres are crap. All England players have played in super league, a Leeds Wakefield game had a more intimidating atmosphere than anything down under.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:12 pm  

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Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:13 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Give over. The games in the southern hemisphere, all atmospheres are crap. All England players have played in super league, a Leeds Wakefield game had a more intimidating atmosphere than anything down under.

Have you watched any of the Tongan games in New Zealand? I don’t think you have, as you wouldn’t be describing it as crap. The same goes for the games in PNG.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:38 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Give over. The games in the southern hemisphere, all atmospheres are crap. All England players have played in super league, a Leeds Wakefield game had a more intimidating atmosphere than anything down under.

Don't be so detached from reality. The games in which Tonga has played have been intense and rich with thousands of Tonga fans singing and chanting. Samoa had its supporters but they were out-enthused by the Tongan fans. The same thing applied when New Zealand played Tonga. The NZ resident on this forum is an expert on the ethnic demography of New Zealand and is calling it like it is.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:33 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

England massive favourites to reach the final.

England 4/9
Tonga 9/5
Draw 20/1

The odds there are probably more to do with the likely betting pattern than what the bookies think the most likely result is. So much money will be put on England that they don't need to be generous with odds. I'll bet the odds in Oz/NZ are quite different.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:38 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Don't be so detached from reality. The games in which Tonga has played have been intense and rich with thousands of Tonga fans singing and chanting. Samoa had its supporters but they were out-enthused by the Tongan fans. The same thing applied when New Zealand played Tonga. The NZ resident on this forum is an expert on the ethnic demography of New Zealand and is calling it like it is.

Says you

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:45 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Don't be so detached from reality. The games in which Tonga has played have been intense and rich with thousands of Tonga fans singing and chanting. Samoa had its supporters but they were out-enthused by the Tongan fans. The same thing applied when New Zealand played Tonga. The NZ resident on this forum is an expert on the ethnic demography of New Zealand and is calling it like it is.

My irony meter has broken - what cloth head you are.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:47 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

I agree, no matter what odds the bookies have concocted out of thin air.

Must be the same thin air you concoct your theories from.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:53 pm  

moto748 wrote:

The odds there are probably more to do with the likely betting pattern than what the bookies think the most likely result is. So much money will be put on England that they don't need to be generous with odds. I'll bet the odds in Oz/NZ are quite different.

A bit of disparity with the English books, prices ranging from 4/6 - 1/2 for an England win in 80 mins (60% - 66.67% in terms of implied probability, 2 points - 4 points in terms of point spread).

Centrebet in aus are 4/6.

I personally think England have been underrated in the finals, opening up at -14 v PNG and the 2 points seems a low start for Tonga, I was expecting at least -8.

Re: Can England beat Tonga? : Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:47 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

The Tongan squad is packed with NRL and SL players amd are well drilled.......they were run close by a Lebanon side who would have treated this game as their final....Tonga would have been hard pressed to back up after the elation of turning the Kiwis over and believe me, 30,000 Tongans' cheering them on at Mt Smart will make for probably the most intense atmosphere that any of the England players will have ever faced.

Give over, most of the England team has played in GF's both in the UK and Aus, CC finals and WCC's as well as test matches vs Aus and NZ both in the Northern and Southern Hemisphere.