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Post Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:26 am
Posted by Kevs Head on Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:26 am
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downo wrote:
I really think you lot have unrealistic expectations of RL in Australia & are largely ignorant of the sporting landscape

As far as playing numbers go, its a dying game, we struggle to put senior competitions together in the cities, its only the Bush that keeps things going & we have an aversion to funding that even, it may sometimes look a bit glossy on the outside, but inside its withering away sadly

So, according to you, the only competition that Aussies are bothered about is SoO and the NRL and the WC is a poopfest. But, at the same time, playing numbers in the country are dwindling and the game is withering. A good argument for losing the obsession with domestic comps and looking a bit wider perhaps.
Re: World Cup: Thoughts so far?
Post Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:06 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:06 pm
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40k for the Final was a shame, but as we knew...the Aussies haven't really bothered with marketing so it was to be expected.
373,461 over 28 games (including 3 DH's) delivers 13,338 as an average which is about 20% down on 2013 and 2008....and this shows that the Aussies should not host it again until they are prepared to work for it!
Winners as expected although stand up and take a bow England and Tonga......the Tongans if they can cement that squad and the Fiji and with 3 semi-finals running have now shown us the 4th and 5th in the world and if the Aussies can't be bothered, then the RLIF need to get negotiating for TV deals to screen Tonga v Fiji and Samoa v PNG on the SoO weekend as a double header...played at Eden Park with a sell out 50k crowd!
England 2021 have a hefty target to aim for attendance wise.......let's hope that the RFL start the job now and get venues and dates tied down as quickly as possible so the venues that bid have a chance to get some traction well ahead of the games and we fill the stadiums.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: World Cup: Thoughts so far?
Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:20 pm
Posted by g_balls on Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:20 pm
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So is the next work cup in England? I thought the USA were looking at making a bid for it?
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Re: World Cup: Thoughts so far?
Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:23 pm
Posted by GIANTSRL on Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:23 pm
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its in england, usa the one after, 2025
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Re: World Cup: Thoughts so far?
Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:46 pm
Posted by Muggins on Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:46 pm
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Call Me God wrote:
40k for the Final was a shame, but as we knew...the Aussies haven't really bothered with marketing so it was to be expected.


It's inexcusable that the RL organisers should let that happen. That stadium should have been full, even if it meant reducing the prices. It's a world cup final. The first one in Australia since 2008 and probably until 2029 at the earliest. The Wallabies got 45000 for their 'friendly' game against New Zealand in the same stadium in October. Very sad.
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Post Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:29 pm
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brearley84 wrote:
its in england, usa the one after, 2025

Someone needs to get started on 2025 NOW because the winning bidder and the promotional company don't seem too "active" at present....the last news bulletin was over 13 Months ago
http://www.mooresportsintl.com/news/
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:38 am
Posted by Charlie Sheen on Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:38 am
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I think the world club challenge should be played in the USA over the next few years, and more SL and NRL teams should play over there, whether in pre season, or during the season.
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Re: World Cup: Thoughts so far?
Post Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:15 pm
Posted by luke ShipleyRed on Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:15 pm
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Charlie Sheen wrote:
I think the world club challenge should be played in the USA over the next few years, and more SL and NRL teams should play over there, whether in pre season, or during the season.


Agree about the world club challenge. Also think that maybe some of the smaller countries (Scotland, Ireland, PNG etc), could tour USA & Canada. Or have a tournament with the above countries involved there.

England going there next year is a good start, maybe take a Australia/New Zealand test there.
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:23 pm
Posted by Sadfish on Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:23 pm
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luke ShipleyRed wrote:
Agree about the world club challenge. Also think that maybe some of the smaller countries (Scotland, Ireland, PNG etc), could tour USA & Canada. Or have a tournament with the above countries involved there.

England going there next year is a good start, maybe take a Australia/New Zealand test there.


We need to be careful that is doesn't become a bane to play, like a game that no one really wants due to costs and low crowds numbers and clubs start not being interested.

We should consider rewarding good work in areas with a WCC like Toronto for example, although not in February of course... lol
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Re: World Cup: Thoughts so far?
Post Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:48 pm
Posted by Psychedelic Casual on Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:48 pm
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downo wrote:
Why? its not remotely interesting, the tournament is an embarrassment, its be better not to have it, it just drags down Rugby League, the show piece of the game in Australia should always be NRL & SOO, this poop show just drags us down, its got a lot to do with England being at fault i suppose, seeing as they haven't been competitive in over 40 years :lol: :oops:

State of Origin is a one sided joke these days. England have given Australia two harder games in this WC than NSW have given QLD in 90% of all SOO games in the last dozen years.

So do one you WUM.
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