Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:38 pm  

Oh good lord, is he on about summer rugby and SKY again?

He's like a broken record that gets an airing at the end of every season.

Guffaw, No really.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:59 pm  

In an interview with one of the finds of the 'Invincibles' tour, a certain Mr.Kenny, he spoke about how the importance of the state matches were increasingly more than the International scene. He basically said what Cam Smith has said albeit quite a few years before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Rt42u4Bg4 The salary cap and ineptitude of the RFL and indeed the RLIF (which is part and parcel of the RFL) yet again has an impact on the international scene, I'll leave it for those with their heads in the sand as to why that is.

In an interview with one of the finds of the 'Invincibles' tour, a certain Mr.Kenny, he spoke about how the importance of the state matches were increasingly more than the International scene. He basically said what Cam Smith has said albeit quite a few years before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Rt42u4Bg4 The salary cap and ineptitude of the RFL and indeed the RLIF (which is part and parcel of the RFL) yet again has an impact on the international scene, I'll leave it for those with their heads in the sand as to why that is.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:31 am  

At least in winter rugby, you knew when the next GB tour of Aus was and when Aus tour of GB was. You knew when you were touring NZ and vice versa. There would also be a test against PNG as part of the tour. However that ship has sailed and I doubt you'll find many who want to give up the relative comfort of summer rugby to improve the International game. Taking that into account, the governing bodies along with the RLIF need to grow a set and have a proper strategy in place for the international game. This includes more than just 1 mid season international. This would mean scrapping or raising the salary cap so clubs who have a fair few players playing international rugby during the season can recruit accordingly to help their domestic campaign.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:44 am  

Anyone who believes super league should go back to winter schedule all for the sake of a GB tour down under or vice versa really needs some help.

To the poster who thinks super league would be in a better state going back to a winter sport. Please remind us how commercially great rugby league was pre super league era.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:47 am  

It started when we scrapped the World Cup and worsened when we scrapped Great Britain.

Not having a World Cup in 2004 or 2005 really set us back as a sport.

Also I remember numerous 'Super League Suoer Stars' programmes where Aussies would say "pulling on the green and gold against Great Britain for a test series was the pinnacle of my career". Jamie Peacock said the same thing about playing for Great Britain.
Now there's none of that, it's Origin Origin Origin!

The international calendar should ALWAYS have a World Cup in there and Great Britain has to come back.

For me, it would go:

Year 1- World Cup, in Aus+NZ
Year 2- Great Britain v Australia
Year 3- Four Nations, in the Southern Hemisphere (Eng Aus NZ and next best SH team).
Year 4- Great Britain v New Zealand

Year 5- World Cup, in GB+France
Year 6- Australia v Great Britain
Year 7- Four Nations, in the Northern Hemisphere (Eng Aus NZ and next best NH team)
Year 8- New Zealand v Great Britain

Year 9- World Cup, in Canada
Year 10- Great Britain v Australia
Year 11- Four Nations, NH
Year 12- Great Britain v New Zealand

And repeat on a 12 year cycle......

Plus running at the same time as the tier 1 Four Nations, two next tier Four Nations tournaments between four of the five teams (depending on who makes the tier 1 tournament) Scotland, France, Wales, Italy, and Ireland in the NH and Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga and even an Australia B team maybe in the SH.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:50 am  

Psychedelic Casual wrote:

It started when we scrapped the World Cup and worsened when we scrapped Great Britain.

Not having a World Cup in 2004 or 2005 really set us back as a sport.

Also I remember numerous 'Super League Suoer Stars' programmes where Aussies would say "pulling on the green and gold against Great Britain for a test series was the pinnacle of my career". Jamie Peacock said the same thing about playing for Great Britain.
Now there's none of that, it's Origin Origin Origin!

The international calendar should ALWAYS have a World Cup in there and Great Britain has to come back.

For me, it would go:

Year 1- World Cup, in Aus+NZ
Year 2- Great Britain v Australia
Year 3- Four Nations, in the Southern Hemisphere (Eng Aus NZ and next best SH team).
Year 4- Great Britain v New Zealand

Year 5- World Cup, in GB+France
Year 6- Australia v Great Britain
Year 7- Four Nations, in the Northern Hemisphere (Eng Aus NZ and next best NH team)
Year 8- New Zealand v Great Britain

Year 9- World Cup, in Canada
Year 10- Great Britain v Australia
Year 11- Four Nations, NH
Year 12- Great Britain v New Zealand

And repeat on a 12 year cycle......

Plus running at the same time as the tier 1 Four Nations, two next tier Four Nations tournaments between four of the five teams (depending on who makes the tier 1 tournament) Scotland, France, Wales, Italy, and Ireland in the NH and Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga and even an Australia B team maybe in the SH.

We can only consider a World Cup in Canada when Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are already in Super League.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:55 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

We can only consider a World Cup in Canada when Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are already in Super League.

Maybe we should be trying to stage the World Cup in France ??

With Catalan established in SL and Toulouse having a decent dig at rising through the leagues, now would be a great time to try and boost the game over there.
Obviously, this would be dependent on having enough quality stadia available but, it would certainly be a step in the right direction and give a level of aspiration for all French "national" players and something different for the sport.

One of the problems that we have is seeing the same 3 "big" nations hosting the major events and a different venue (France) would be an exciting prospect and it would crtainly boost the game over there.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:29 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Maybe we should be trying to stage the World Cup in France ??

With Catalan established in SL and Toulouse having a decent dig at rising through the leagues, now would be a great time to try and boost the game over there.
Obviously, this would be dependent on having enough quality stadia available but, it would certainly be a step in the right direction and give a level of aspiration for all French "national" players and something different for the sport.

One of the problems that we have is seeing the same 3 "big" nations hosting the major events and a different venue (France) would be an exciting prospect and it would crtainly boost the game over there.

It would probably be more of a commercial success if France shared some of the games with Britain (3 games in France, held in Paris, Toulouse and Avignon) and perhaps one or two in Canada.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:37 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

It would probably be more of a commercial success if France shared some of the games with Britain (3 games in France, held in Paris, Toulouse and Avignon) and perhaps one or two in Canada.

Jean, Canada is just not sensible (in terms of splitting fixtures with the UK for a world cup.
Fixtures come thick and fast and losing a couple of days with jet lag would be a massive disadvantage for teams that had to play fixtures over there.

There is no reason why some future international fixtures shouldn't be played over there if and when Toronto have got settled.

The potential over there is huge but, we aer just at the very begining of the journey and nobody knows what lays ahead.

Re: Well said Cameron Smith : Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:59 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

We can only consider a World Cup in Canada when Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are already in Super League.

This is just an example of an ongoing thing from say 2025 onwards for the next 50 years. It's time Rugby League stuck to a calendar and League formats and have all leagues and internationals playing the same rules, then stick with it, stick with it, stick with it! No more changes, we have to stick with something that everyone knows and even non-rugby League fans can say "oh yeah and it's the GB tour of Aus this Autumn isn't it?" because everyone is so used to it