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Should Toulouse, Toronto and Montreal join Super League at the expense of a heartland club?::

1. Yes, it would be a good development.
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2. No, the non-English clubs should only be allowed to join as add ons to the existing (at the time) Super League clubs.
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3. No, I don't want them in Super League at all.
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Chorley is in Europe. So, correct you are sitting in Bloody Europe. :D


I am sitting in continental Europe, not on an offshore island.
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
I am sitting in continental Europe, not on an offshore island.


Of course you are ... :lol: :lol:
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42% think that if a foreign team gets promoted into super league they shouldn't be allowed in?
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joetwizzy wrote:
42% think that if they win a foreign team gets promoted into super league they shouldn't be allowed in?


Really? (Can't see the poll results on my iPad for some reason). Surely if they win they have as much right to be in super league as anyone else.

I agree very much with wrencats post on the previous page. It depends very much what the long term plan is, but the worst possible structure for aspiring clubs is the one we currently have.

If we were committed to expansion, or even just getting some teams out of the championship we would be better off tearing the whole thing up and going back to franchising but doing it properly in terms of teams meeting the criteria.

I can't be the only one that thinks for example if franchising had been administered properly Leigh would probably be in SL right now, in the place of Wakey or Salford.

In either system it is a case of if you are good enough you get in, but if done properly franchising is equally about how well a club goes off the field, which for the game, but maybe not for some fans, is the most important thing.
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I'm a little torn on the subject. Expansion is vital for the future of the sport, but I don't think parachuting random worldwide teams into the English structure is the best way. I have no issue with the likes of Toronto. But the long term plan has to be for them to be participating in a strong Canadian league. The same goes for the French teams.

I don't think a "World League" works on any level.
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"I have no issue with the likes of Toronto. But the long term plan has to be for them to be participating in a strong Canadian league. The same goes for the French teams."

So what you're saying is that you have no problem with Toronto or French teams as long as they're not playing in the English leagues ?
That's pretty non-expansionist to me !
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sanjunien wrote:
"I have no issue with the likes of Toronto. But the long term plan has to be for them to be participating in a strong Canadian league. The same goes for the French teams."

So what you're saying is that you have no problem with Toronto or French teams as long as they're not playing in the English leagues ?
That's pretty non-expansionist to me !


Why is that then?

Toronto playing in SL would be a good thing short term to raise the profile of the game over there. But eventually you need to build on that by developing a strong domestic scene. Having a couple of Canadian teams full of English and Aus players based thousands of miles away will do nothing for Canadian RL.
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:
I'm a little torn on the subject. Expansion is vital for the future of the sport, but I don't think parachuting random worldwide teams into the English structure is the best way. I have no issue with the likes of Toronto. But the long term plan has to be for them to be participating in a strong Canadian league. The same goes for the French teams.

I don't think a "World League" works on any level.


A "World League" is a little hyperbolic. It's only the UK, France & Canada.

Random teams aren't being parachuted in either. Parachuted would imply they're being dropped in at the top (SL), but they're actually being pushed in at the bottom (League 1). They also haven't been randomly selected by the RFL or anything like that, this is an extremely serious proposal from Toronto, that we'd be fools to turn down.

How long is 'long-term'? Is a fully fledged French of Canadian SL feasible even in the next 30 years? It's an ideal scenario I agree, but it's just not realistic. After 120years of professional RL in England, we still only have 7/8 strong clubs.
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A "World League" is a little hyperbolic


How many countries play in the World baseball comp?
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Rugby union has Australian, New Zealand, Japanese, South African and an Argentinian team all playing each other, albeit in different divisions. That seems to work for them, so I'm willing to give the Canadians teams a go. After a few years, who's to say that someone won't invest in a full time Canadian league.
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