Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:04 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Too right, its about time the French Rugby League get there finger out and develop there own Superleague instead of piggy backing onto ours. They could have there own corridor of clubs via the A62/A61 and develop clubs like Bordeaux, Toulouse, Carcassonne, Limoux, Narbonne, Montpellier.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe its called the European Superleague. That being so they're perfectly entitled to be a member, subject of course to being of a high enough standard.

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:23 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe its called the European Superleague. That being so they're perfectly entitled to be a member, subject of course to being of a high enough standard.

And the inclusion of a French club was part of the TV deal but, we could get rid of that as well and then the sport would be well and truly screwed.

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:15 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe its called the European Superleague. That being so they're perfectly entitled to be a member, subject of course to being of a high enough standard.

Is it the European Championship One as well ??

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:58 pm  

Budgiezilla wrote:

Is it the European Championship One as well ??

Well it seems to be open to anyone if we're actually allowing a Canadian team to enter.

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:03 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

Well it seems to be open to anyone if we're actually allowing a Canadian team to enter.

And why not!

Which has the bigger potential for our sport - Toronto/Toulouse................or Leigh?

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:38 pm  

:):) You can't have a fast track system AND p&r.

How about a North American/Canadian League and a French League (haven't they already got one). Let's sort the sport out in our own country first eh Nigel.

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:57 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

:):):) You can't have a fast track system AND p&r.

How about a North American/Canadian League and a French League (haven't they already got one). Let's sort the sport out in our own country first eh Nigel.

We've had over 100 years to "sort it out" and we made a right "bollo..." of it, hence the move to summer rugby and "franchising".
What the sport really does need to do is, work out where it wants to be in 5, 10 and 20 years time and then achieve those aims but, sadly, it just doesn't have any kind of laid down strategy.
Instead it lurches from "quick fix to "quick fix" and the game is just about stagnant.

The Aussie are jointly to blame as, they couldn't give a damn what happens over here as long as they have their precious State of Origin series and just as we need a strong French team, they need the game to be strong over here.

Our game has to make a plan and stick with it and although you say that there can be a "fast track" system AND P/R, the two dont really go together and if the game is serious about helping France and Canada develop as professional Rugby League playing nations, there has to be some serious thought given to it or, both will fail AND we may harm the British game in the process.

Personally, I dont have an issue with replacing a British club with a Canadian and/or French club in SL but, ONLY if it will be for the longer term good of the sport.

The old Franchising system should have been the right "vehicle" for doing this, allowing for the addition of new clubs etc but, instead, the top flight was shrunk (due to "insufficient numbers of quality professional players") and to give the remaining clubs a bit more cash and this was plainly wrong for a sport that wants to expand the reach of it's top division.

We could wait for "organic" growth, from the grass roots up but, we are already miles behind Union and we do need a method if increasing the number of playing nations.

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:07 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Toulouse have already beaten Leigh Centurions and got to within 6 points of Wakefield before going down 40-22 at Wakefield.
Therefore Toulouse are already at the standard of the Middle 8s!

You sir, and your few fans, are a motley little group of insular, flat capped UKIP donkeys

Still going strong empty head ,answer me the question you always avoid is this the same Toulouse that imploded with less than 500 fans the last time?so what's changed now ,let's see if they get out the division there in and see how they go next year if they avoid the drop they will have done well oh have they any French players playing for them yet ?

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:36 pm  

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:

And why not!

Which has the bigger potential for our sport - Toronto/Toulouse................or Leigh?

As do London , Sheffield ,Huddersfield and Salford

But ?

Re: 84-6 : Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:38 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

We've had over 100 years to "sort it out" and we made a right "bollo..." of it, hence the move to summer rugby and "franchising".
What the sport really does need to do is, work out where it wants to be in 5, 10 and 20 years time and then achieve those aims but, sadly, it just doesn't have any kind of laid down strategy.
Instead it lurches from "quick fix to "quick fix" and the game is just about stagnant.

The Aussie are jointly to blame as, they couldn't give a damn what happens over here as long as they have their precious State of Origin series and just as we need a strong French team, they need the game to be strong over here.

Our game has to make a plan and stick with it and although you say that there can be a "fast track" system AND P/R, the two dont really go together and if the game is serious about helping France and Canada develop as professional Rugby League playing nations, there has to be some serious thought given to it or, both will fail AND we may harm the British game in the process.

Personally, I dont have an issue with replacing a British club with a Canadian and/or French club in SL but, ONLY if it will be for the longer term good of the sport.

The old Franchising system should have been the right "vehicle" for doing this, allowing for the addition of new clubs etc but, instead, the top flight was shrunk (due to "insufficient numbers of quality professional players") and to give the remaining clubs a bit more cash and this was plainly wrong for a sport that wants to expand the reach of it's top division.

We could wait for "organic" growth, from the grass roots up but, we are already miles behind Union and we do need a method if increasing the number of playing nations.

By all means ' franchise ' , set the criteria and stick to it

But we know that doesn't happen