Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 7:13 am  

I wonder what Powell would've said if some of the 50/50s that went Wigans way went Cas'. Thaler let Cas get away with stuff as much as he did Wigan. I hope the RFL stick to their guns (for once), fine Powell, and stick Thaler on for Cas's next game. As bad as Widnes whinging about Joe Cobb.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 7:38 am  

PopTart wrote:

I agree. I thought Thaler was spot on in most decisions and definitely in tth way he spoke to the players.
A lot of winging from Cas tonight.

Bit strange this, i usually find cas fans fairly sporting, apart from last year when there was a couple of dubious VR decisions went our way, but last night they seemed to decide very early on that Thaler was against them and got on his back almost right away.
Strange because apart from the offside decision at HT and the Bateman incident i couldn't see what he did to upset them.
But as Gronk's posts on here suggest, cas fans have a problem with him or he is perceived to have a problem with them and that possibly clouded their judgement?
I thought he had a good game and stamped his authority well, unlike some modern day officials.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 7:53 am  

Quite an entertaining game last night. Few errors from Thaler, but thought he was generally spot on. Wigan got in their faces and Cas indiscipline cost them the 2 points imo.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 8:47 am  

Didn't think Thaler was great but didn't feel he was as bad as Powell thought. I'm not a cas fan but the part that would have wound me up was the Bateman incident I thought he spoke to gale like a cock as gale was being reasonable enough and asking when he could speak to him. And at the end of that the man who started it all in Bateman he has a laugh and a joke with and even winked at him. If I was a cas fan it would have wound me up.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 8:47 am  

Entertaining stuff - intense, nip and tuck and a bit spiteful.

Cas seemed to have an issue with Thaler from the outset and did a lot of whingeing and hand-flapping, which isn't like them; but I guess if you go into a game with a preconceived idea that the ref is biased, it's possible to find injustice in virtually every call that goes against you. I thought Gale could have found himself in bother in the first half too, when he blatantly put his hands on Thaler.

Anyhow - well done Wigan; although can someone *please* tell Tomkins to stop with the transparent attempts to milk a penalty; he now seems to have escalated his technique to include trapping with his legs as well as his arms - it's embarrassing.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 9:15 am  

Sorry for not having read through the previous 18 pages but, the game swung on the HT hooter.
Probably would be a penalty 9 games out of 10 and Cas were a little unfortunate with that but, their discipline was poor all game.
Wigan were certainly guilty of slowing down the ptb in the first half, which is probably why the Cas players and fans were getting upset. The third man in the tackle was taking an age to clear the ruck.

The no try at the end was a close call, just imagine if that had been to decide the game.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 10:05 am  

Wow!

I'm astounded at the number of well reasoned, balanced and fair comments in favour of Wigan on here.

Has some sort of reverse transforming filter been put onto thread ?

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 11:03 am  

The offside at half time was deemed ok by Cummings because Gildart touched the ball behind where Manfredi knocked on, I'm not au fait with the exact rules so don't know the exact details but if that's the case then fair play to Thaler for seeing it if thats what occured.
The second gripe seems to be Bateman, and I thought that the penalty was given to Wigan for holding down, Bateman reacted with a slap on the head or as Castleford described it on their twitter feed as 'dropping an elbow', Dorn saw this and rushed in which then became a pile on. I think in the commentary it was mentioned that RL is not a sport where we reverse penalties so my interpretation was Wigan got the penalty and perhaps Thaler never saw the slap or whatever it was. Am sure the disciplinary will deal with it if anything is untoward with that.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 11:36 am  

Ferdy wrote:

Didn't think Thaler was great but didn't feel he was as bad as Powell thought. I'm not a cas fan but the part that would have wound me up was the Bateman incident I thought he spoke to gale like a cock as gale was being reasonable enough and asking when he could speak to him. And at the end of that the man who started it all in Bateman he has a laugh and a joke with and even winked at him. If I was a cas fan it would have wound me up.

Yeah this is how I saw it as well, and I suspect this might be the incident Powell was referring to regarding his comments about the way the ref spoke to the players.

Re: Castleford vs Wigan Discussion. : Fri May 27, 2016 12:31 pm  

Meefy wrote:

The offside at half time was deemed ok by Cummings because Gildart touched the ball behind where Manfredi knocked on, I'm not au fait with the exact rules so don't know the exact details but if that's the case then fair play to Thaler for seeing it if thats what occured.

Thaler was spot on with that decision. The fact that Gildart was behind the point at which the initial knock on occurred meant that he had effectively played himself back onside. The only onky time that this rule doesnt apply is if youre on the attacking team amd youre stood in front of the play the ball. You remain offside for that phase of play regardless of whether you get behind the ball or not. Thought Thaler had a decent game personally, Wigan were just better.