Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:42 am  

According to Rugby League Week, the next version of the marquee exemption is to be voted on. The new rule proposed is:

- All NRL signings are capped to £200k on the salary cap, regardless of what they earn.
- teams can nominate a "homegrown marquee", as long as he is earning over £200k, and he will be taken completely off cap.

To be voted on in June - do you think it will get voted in by the SL chairmen? Does it go far enough to appease the "sustainable growth" chairmen? More importantly, will it work??

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:27 am  

Quite simply, the teams that can afford to take advantage of it (Salford, Warrington, Wigan, possibly Leeds and Hull) will vote for it. The teams that can't will vote against.

Is it a good idea? Well it might stop a couple of young English stars going to the NRL/RU, and it might mean we see a couple of Aussie test stars plying their trade over here again. But there are plenty of things we need to prioritise over this to take the game forward.

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:29 am  

Define work...

Is it better than what we had before? Yes. Will it help us compete for 1 word class player? Yes.

Are there a few problems with it? Yes (main two being why 200k? Seems pretty arbitrary. Doesn't seem to much of a point in that. Also the home grown one doesn't seem sensible to have that 200k cap. Wouldn't it just encourage a club who could possibly sign a ayer for 175k to nominate him as marquee and pay him 201k and have him off the cap completely? I'm not sure what these extra restrictions are actually trying to achieve )

Will it solve all our problems and immediately make everything brilliant? No.

Will people call it a failure because it doesn't solve all our problems immediately and make everything brilliant? Yes.

It's a start though. Hopefully see some big names and big stars come across next year. There are a few big names out of contract for us to attack. I'd also say a couple of teams might keep their powder dry. Next year is a world cup year. International rl has a bigger pull in a WC year. There will be a few Aussies and Kiwis who might want to stay and fight for a WC place next year that may not be so keen on whatever follows.

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:30 am  

Personally, I would rather see a broader exemption / reduction for all "homegrown" players rather than an exemption for a single player.

No doubt that some chairmen will like being able to spend £500k to sign a Greg Inglis or Billy Slater, but long term I am not sure that this will help Super League to grow and develop over the next 3-5 years.

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:36 am  

EHW wrote:

Personally, I would rather see a broader exemption / reduction for all "homegrown" players rather than an exemption for a single player.

No doubt that some chairmen will like being able to spend £500k to sign a Greg Inglis or Billy Slater, but long term I am not sure that this will help Super League to grow and develop over the next 3-5 years.

I can't imagine how it wouldn't.

If GI came over here it would be the biggest boost to RL'S profile and visibility in this country in my lifetime.

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:57 am  

EHW wrote:

Personally, I would rather see a broader exemption / reduction for all "homegrown" players rather than an exemption for a single player.

No doubt that some chairmen will like being able to spend £500k to sign a Greg Inglis or Billy Slater, but long term I am not sure that this will help Super League to grow and develop over the next 3-5 years.

I don't think it could hurt though?

The way I look at the proposal is that it's an effort to keep our stars whilst gaining new ones. Something SL desperately needs is star players to get bums on seats & people talking about the game.


I think the £200k home-grown marquee player allowance is a good one. It's aimed at those top few players in our comp, who might otherwise be tempted by going to the NRL or Rugby Union. Obviously not all clubs will need it, but I'd rather it was available than not available.

Completely hypothetically, this rule if brought in a few years ago could have tempted Sam Tomkins to stay, Wigan don't tie up so much cap in one player & can offer him enough to make him stay. Saints could have had James Roby as their marquee player, freeing up cap to perhaps keep James Graham or going back even further, Eastmond. The rule could help Leeds keep hold of Watkins in the future. It's not saying clubs have to spend this amount of money, just that it's there should they need it.


The NRL player rule again is a good one IMO. The salary cap impact capped at £200k means that they can go out and sign one or two world class players, but due to cap constraints can't spend a fortune and have 5 or 6 internationals running about.

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:09 am  

For me the homegrown doesn't go far enough. If Saints get Roby as they're "homegrown Marquee", it still offers no protection to the next generation (Percival, Thompson, Greenwood etc), who might take the crown from Roby ifand when he retires or starts his decline. As the Joe Burgess move proves, they're just as at risk as the very top players.

I quite like the capping to 200k of non-fed players (and I can only assume NRL players means non-fed, otherwise it would be quite unworkable imo), and 200k is probably quite a good figure in terms of balancing clubs cap. You can just bring in 5 superstars and hope the rest of the team just turn up, but with careful precision you might fit 2 in...

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:23 am  

I agree in large part with Smokey. It doesn't solve all RL's problems but it allows clubs to be competitive with the NRL and Union.

I understand the point about homegrown players and don't see why we can't have allowances on the cap for homegrown players, anything to encourage the use of them must be good. But I don't have a problem with a club trying to sign a Billy Slater or Greg Inglis, that's exactly who we want from overseas and we should do everything we can with the cap/finances to encourage the signing of top quality players from whatever source.
The problem is the signing of large amounts of average aussies/kiwis/islanders that represent risk-free short term gain for clubs rather than investing in youth. It's getting a bit better (despite the bizarre increase in the non-fed trained quota by the RFL) but still not where we should be in terms of numbers of homegrown players and certainly not there in terms of quality.

Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:30 am  

Billy Slater has been on the slide for some time so he may be an option.
The chances of a player like Inglis moving to England for anything less then what he gets now would seem remote.
He would be on $1,000,000 a season with his personal sponsorship.

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Re: Marquee Exemption v2.0 : Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:31 am  

How do you have a marquee allowance AND promotion/relegation? The middle 8 is already a dicey concept in terms of disparity of salary cap without adding this to it as well.