[TimperleySaint]

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:23 pm  

Him wrote:

Sweet Jesus give it time. It's not even started yet.
I doubt the plans would be to go from a 6 team series to a 4 team one though.

Personally I'd like to see the next step to be a proper 6 team series. It could run along the lines of the old top 6 playoff system and include the LLS & CC winners:

Round 1:
Game 1 - Challenge Cup winner v NRL runner up - winner to Round 2, loser out.
Game 2 - SL League Leaders v NRL League Leader - winner to Round 2, loser out.

Round 2:
Game 3 - SL GF winner v NRL GF winner - winner to Final, loser to Round 3.
Game 4 - Winner of Game 1 v winner of Game 2 - winner to Round 3, loser out.

Round 3:
Game 5 - loser of Game 3 v winner of Game 4 - winner to final, loser out.

Final:
Winner of Game 3 v winner of Game 5


6 games over 4 weeks, or I'm sure it could be done over 3 weeks with a mid-week game.

What if the teams in games 2 and 3 are the same team???

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:11 pm  

Mike Oxlong wrote:

What if the teams in games 2 and 3 are the same team???

You mean if the Grand Final winner is also the League Leader?
In that case it'd go to 2nd place in the league.

The same goes for Challenge Cup winner, if they've also won the GF then the Challenge Cup winners place goes to the CC runner up.

So if, for example, this were around in 2006 when Saints won the treble then:
Saints would take the SL Grand Final winners spot.
The Challenge Cup spot would go to Huddersfield as runners up.
The League Leaders spot would go to Hull for coming 2nd in the league.

[TimperleySaint]

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:37 pm  

Him wrote:

You mean if the Grand Final winner is also the League Leader?
In that case it'd go to 2nd place in the league.

The same goes for Challenge Cup winner, if they've also won the GF then the Challenge Cup winners place goes to the CC runner up.

So if, for example, this were around in 2006 when Saints won the treble then:
Saints would take the SL Grand Final winners spot.
The Challenge Cup spot would go to Huddersfield as runners up.
The League Leaders spot would go to Hull for coming 2nd in the league.

Yeah, that is what I was getting at.

And to play devils advocate even further - what if the CC runners up are the GF runners up, and finished 2nd in the SL table? Unlikely I know, but could happen, and then I think you are taking something away from the comp by then involving teams that finish 3rd and 4th IMO if you want to have any substance behind it.

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:43 pm  

all but 50 tickets sold at Saints as of 9:30 this morning

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:27 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

all but 50 tickets sold at Saints as of 9:30 this morning

Great news! Will be an amazing spectacle!

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:36 pm  

Saints are in single digits on their website, but who knows how many the RFL have in reserve on their 3 game package??? So there maybe a chance for some of these to come back and be sold at Saints.

Not sure how many people will buy a 3 game package?

Re: World Club Series : Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:37 pm  

Mike Oxlong wrote:

Yeah, that is what I was getting at.

And to play devils advocate even further - what if the CC runners up are the GF runners up, and finished 2nd in the SL table? Unlikely I know, but could happen, and then I think you are taking something away from the comp by then involving teams that finish 3rd and 4th IMO if you want to have any substance behind it.

It works as:
Grand Final winners
Challenge Cup winners (or runner up if winner is same as GF winner)
League Leaders winner (or 2nd place if LL is same as GF winner, or 3rd place if LL & 2nd place are GF winner, CC winner and CC runner up.

So if for example the season ends as:
1. Saints
2. Wigan
3. Warrington

Grand Final winner = Saints
Challenge Cup winner = Saints
Challenge Cup Runner up = Wigan

What would happen, apart from uproarious p|ss taking directed towards Wigan from a certain town known for its glass making, is that Saints obviously take the Grand Final Winners place.
Wigan, as runners up, take the Challenge Cup place.
Warrington would then take the League Leaders place since both 1st and 2nd are already involved. It's not really a "League Leaders" place, more a "highest league position" place.

It would only be as low as 3rd place in the table that would ever be involved (unless of course a team from lower in the league wins the Grand Final or is involved in the Cup Final.
I dont think, if you're involving 3 SL teams in the comp, that having the team finished 3rd involved is devaluing it.

Re: World Club Series : Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:53 am  

And the other thing is, an English team or two in the Auckland Nines, please!

Re: World Club Series : Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:40 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Saints are in single digits on their website, but who knows how many the RFL have in reserve on their 3 game package??? So there maybe a chance for some of these to come back and be sold at Saints.

Not sure how many people will buy a 3 game package?

There were only 50 left of the 3 game package left this morning according to the Super league page

Re: World Club Series : Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:07 pm  

3 North Wales Crusaders fans coming to Warrington by train looking foward to game. just got tickets seemed to be plenty left.