Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:14 am  

Took a while but it's grown on me and kids love it. My nephews all wear the Pirates gear I have bought them regularly even though they know nothing of RL, yet! It will be massive for merch sales and if done right and not cheesy will be great for game day branding etc. just need a club now!

Also not many people know but WA had Australia's only recognised pirate, capt black jack, and one of the most famous historical figures here was a buccaneer, William Dampier.

I loved the Reds Name and logo but can see being the only club in Australia being called the Pirates will be a marketers dream.

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:16 am  

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Convicts has a nice ring to it

It wouldn't be a bad name for a Perth side.
They were the last place in Australia to take convicts - largely Irish political prisoners - up till 1868.
The last one died in about 1950 (sent out as a 14 year old in 1868 - died in his late 90s).

I can't recall the guy's name now, but one prominent political prisoner was rescued by an American Whaling ship, and the guy spent years giving lectures and raising money in America. He was originally a member of the Irish guards in England and was arrested as a so-called Fenian Rebel. They even made a TV mini series out of it.

They could be called the WA Fenian Rebels and have a motto of something like "Death to the English".

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:59 am  

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Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:30 am  

Last seasons Pirates SG Ball jerseys, brand colours look to be black, red and gold/yellow

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Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:02 am  

JB Down Under wrote:

Last seasons Pirates SG Ball jerseys, brand colours look to be black, red and gold/yellow

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I am not fussed on either of those designs JB, they look like Pub team Jerseys.
Is Cash Converters on a long term sponsorship deal?

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:23 am  

I'm not too keen on the West Coast name to be honest. It's not really a place. It's an area to describe one side of any country that borders water.

There was a lot of talk of relocations being an option on LU Forums. Of all the relations that could work from a naming perspective, I reckon Wests Magpies could have been a good one.
Bang in the Brisbane Tigers as the other half and include the Wellington Orcas and you've hit all the major expansion areas in one go then.

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:27 pm  

Cash converters have been a major supporter of WA RL since the early 90's. The perth guy who owns the company is a multi millionaire and big rugby league fan. He is putting in around $200k a year to our jnr program.

Design needs some work and I'd prefer to see the colours a bit more classy; scarlet red, old gold and black. Similar to what the Tampa bay changed to. They wanted to come up with a name that embraced the state as RL is popular in the far north and growing in the SW. It was either WA or West Coast.

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:04 pm  

JB Down Under wrote: A taste of what's to come when we get a team. Ground record held by rugby league. http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/video-all- ... z3Mit9HdMt 1. Western Australia delivers pitiful viewing figures for Rugby League. Couple that with the time difference and the logistical costs and the numbers don't stack up. 2. 1.7 million people call Perth home......20k for 1 game but normally between 12 and 16k.....That's poor compared to Wellingtons 200k population and 25k and 30k for the last 2 years. 3. There are 9 clubs in the region.....which deliver little in the way of players to the NRL. New Zealand is becoming increasingly more important in the delivery of players for the comp. 4. You had 3 years at the top level and failed in pretty much every aspect. Having a wealthy owner isn't enough. Wellingtons bid is based around the club being self sufficient from day 1. I don't see how either Brisbane II or WA Pirates can be see as better placed than NZII........

JB Down Under wrote: A taste of what's to come when we get a team. Ground record held by rugby league. http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/video-all- ... z3Mit9HdMt 1. Western Australia delivers pitiful viewing figures for Rugby League. Couple that with the time difference and the logistical costs and the numbers don't stack up. 2. 1.7 million people call Perth home......20k for 1 game but normally between 12 and 16k.....That's poor compared to Wellingtons 200k population and 25k and 30k for the last 2 years. 3. There are 9 clubs in the region.....which deliver little in the way of players to the NRL. New Zealand is becoming increasingly more important in the delivery of players for the comp. 4. You had 3 years at the top level and failed in pretty much every aspect. Having a wealthy owner isn't enough. Wellingtons bid is based around the club being self sufficient from day 1. I don't see how either Brisbane II or WA Pirates can be see as better placed than NZII........

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:58 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

1. Western Australia delivers pitiful viewing figures for Rugby League. Couple that with the time difference and the logistical costs and the numbers don't stack up.
2. 1.7 million people call Perth home......20k for 1 game but normally between 12 and 16k.....That's poor compared to Wellingtons 200k population and 25k and 30k for the last 2 years.
3. There are 9 clubs in the region.....which deliver little in the way of players to the NRL. New Zealand is becoming increasingly more important in the delivery of players for the comp.
4. You had 3 years at the top level and failed in pretty much every aspect. Having a wealthy owner isn't enough. Wellingtons bid is based around the club being self sufficient from day 1.

I don't see how either Brisbane II or WA Pirates can be see as better placed than NZII........

Why do you think a second Brisbane team would not deliver more than Wellington?
Brisbane is a huge League market in a major City with just one team.
Many people in Brisbane dislike the Bronco's and would get right behind an alternative team.
Brisbane would not have the situation they have now where there is no game played in the city on Half of the weekends in the season.

Re: Wellington Orcas for NRL 2018? : Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:17 am  

Wellsy13 wrote:

I'm not too keen on the West Coast name to be honest. It's not really a place. It's an area to describe one side of any country that borders water.

There was a lot of talk of relocations being an option on LU Forums. Of all the relations that could work from a naming perspective, I reckon Wests Magpies could have been a good one.
Bang in the Brisbane Tigers as the other half and include the Wellington Orcas and you've hit all the major expansion areas in one go then.

There's already a very famous RL club in Brisbane called the Tigers...

West Coast is fine. It's what the top level AFL and netball teams are called. Everyone in the country knows it represents Perth/WA. If they went back to Perth they'd be on the same level as the soccer and basketball teams.