Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:46 am  

mikej wrote:

Sinfield did do well on Friday BUT as the cup final showed, if you pin him back then Leeds are very few on kicking options. This allowed Hogson and the wingers to basically work out where the kicks were going before they were even sent. Maguire being back will help but a full strength Wolves side has Briers, Myler, Hodgson and Higham/Monaghan as options so hopefully Leeds will spend more time in reverse than going forward.

I think they'll have learnt from that and McGuire and Burrow will take more responsibility than they did at Wembley.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:02 am  

leaguechatter wrote:

I think they'll have learnt from that and McGuire and Burrow will take more responsibility than they did at Wembley.

Well Maguire obviously had a reason for being absent at Wembley. All Burrow did all afternoon was go sideways and not stand square at the PTB. I still think that (HOPEFULLY) the game will be won by Warrington greater number of kicking options.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:12 am  

mikej wrote:

Well Maguire obviously had a reason for being absent at Wembley. All Burrow did all afternoon was go sideways and not stand square at the PTB. I still think that (HOPEFULLY) the game will be won by Warrington greater number of kicking options.

I think you're reading too much into that. The reason Leeds didn't get good kicks away in the Cup Final was because Warrington's forwards were dominant. Which is also why Burrow spent his time running sideways because Leeds forwards had made little to no impact on the Wire defensive line and so there were no holes for him to run at.
As with the vast vast majority of RL games it'll be won in the forwards.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:18 pm  

Dougy wrote:

80 mins away from ending it and also completing an historic Double and becoming only the 4th club in the history of the game to achieve 2 Doubles after Wigan, Saints and Hudderfield.

Don't count your chickens before etc etc. Do you not remember the Cup Final and the contentious " No Try" moment which turned it in your favour. This could well go the other way.

Having said that, I wish you well. Another name of the SL trophy would be good. The same monotonous domination by the same teams is getting boring.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:16 pm  

Leeds have ridden their luck for a while now, it's about time it ran out.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:00 pm  

Him wrote:

Isn't it 57 years since Wire last won the Comp?

The present format has only been with us since the advent of Superleague, 18 years? Pre SL it was the premiership play-off which we won in 1988 and before that in the mid 70s. So we haven't won the play off comp in 24 years to be correct.

If you mean the league then its 12 months since we last won it.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:43 pm  

TF and the wire wrote:

The present format has only been with us since the advent of Superleague, 18 years? Pre SL it was the premiership play-off which we won in 1988 and before that in the mid 70s. So we haven't won the play off comp in 24 years to be correct.

If you mean the league then its 12 months since we last won it.

No. I, and everyone else mean the competition that determines the champions each season. Which Wire haven't won since the 50's. The league leaders have only been declared champions in 33 seasons of Rugby League. The rest of the time the champions have been decided by the play offs. The Premiership did not decide the champions, the current SL playoffs do.

1895/96 - League position
1896-1901 - county leagues
1901/02 - 1905/06 - League position
1906/07 - 1914/15 - Playoff
1915-1919 - no comp
1919/20 - 1938/39 - Playoff
1939-45 - no comp
1945/46 - 1961/62 - Playoff
1962/63 - 1963/64 - League
1964/65 - 1972/73 - Playoff
1973/74 - 1997 - League
1998 - 2012 - Playoff

Also your own club website says Warrington last won the Championship in 1954/55.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:35 am  

Him wrote:

No. I, and everyone else mean the competition that determines the champions each season. Which Wire haven't won since the 50's. The league leaders have only been declared champions in 33 seasons of Rugby League. The rest of the time the champions have been decided by the play offs. The Premiership did not decide the champions, the current SL playoffs do.

1895/96 - League position
1896-1901 - county leagues
1901/02 - 1905/06 - League position
1906/07 - 1914/15 - Playoff
1915-1919 - no comp
1919/20 - 1938/39 - Playoff
1939-45 - no comp
1945/46 - 1961/62 - Playoff
1962/63 - 1963/64 - League
1964/65 - 1972/73 - Playoff
1973/74 - 1997 - League
1998 - 2012 - Playoff

Also your own club website says Warrington last won the Championship in 1954/55.

Correct. Why the LLS debate continues astounds me.

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:58 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

Why are we the favourites? We're going to be playing a team that has won the GF 4 times in the last 5 years, who have been in the final 7 times and won it 5 times and are the only team to win it from 5th place.

Yes, we've beaten them twice at Wembley in the last 3 years, but that was in our house; we're playing next week in Leeds' domain.

I think the Rhino's will still be favourites, and I prefer us to be the underdogs, makes us perform better!

Leeds 7/4, Warrington 8/15, so pretty clear favourites.
You are right though, Leeds seem to know how to win big games and you will have to be on your mettle to beat them.
Should be a cracker !

Re: Could 57 years of hurt be over for Wire? : Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:27 pm  

As much as I want Warrington to put Leeds to the sword I think Leeds will be going all out to prove that winning the final from 5th wasn't a one-off or a fluke. Warrington have to come out and play like they can, if they get dragged into an arm wrestle Leeds will take the spoils.