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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:53 pm  
Sean O'Brotherinlaw has come on a lot since the days when I thought he wasn't even averagely good, I've got to admit that.

He's a plain, honest-to-goodness, no-frills player.
Nothing wrong with that.

Golden Boot?
If he ever gets within loudhailer distance of it, there's something strange going on.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:02 pm  
Not sure what sort of fish Damo was angling for, but I'll say the following -
A couple of years back I didn't rate O'Loughlin. However, in the 2007 series he showed he could transfer his game to the international scene well. Since then I've taken extra interest in his game and been very impressed with his physical defence and all round forward's game.

I have always respected Sinfield's contribution for Leeds, and the past 3 years have seen him acheive an awful lot. However, in my yearning to match the aussies consistantly, I bemoan the fact that our international side requires a 3rd player after the half backs to take charge of the distribution and kicking game.

Sinfield (when he's not been dipping in at hooker) has been asked to do for England a similar role that he does for Leeds, and he's done it well, there's also no question in my mind over his heart, commitment or workrate
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If Eastmond and Tomkins are our future halfbacks then they have the talent and ability to to the kicking, distribution and organising between them, which would mean that a playmaking 13 like Sinfield would be less needed and I would go for a more physical 13 - SoL would be my first choice.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:07 pm  
Thing is O'Loughlin isnt a bad distributer either, he's got a fantastic cut out pass but Sinfields kicking game is top notch.
As you say though, that's the 6 and 7's job, Aus dont use Hindmarsh or Gallen et al to do it
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:55 pm  
I've always rated both players but my concern was Sinfields size in the back row. Smith has found his best position now at international level and should use him as the regular #9.

O'Loughlin is another who IMO has copped undue flak purely because he was Farrels bro in law. I mean WTF.

O'Loughlin is a good hardworking 13 who can dish it a bit and as has been said earlier, if your half backs give you the flair then your 13 can do the graft.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:07 pm  
If tackling anything that runs in your direction is all it takes to make you an international forward, then Malcolm Alker must be the unluckiest player on the planet not to have 20 international caps by now.

Unfortunately for players like both O'Loughlin and Alker, you need to have something a little bit extra to make it at international level.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:10 pm  
Andy Gilder wrote:
If tackling anything that runs in your direction is all it takes to make you an international forward, then Malcolm Alker must be the unluckiest player on the planet not to have 20 international caps by now.

Unfortunately for players like both O'Loughlin and Alker, you need to have something a little bit extra to make it at international level.


I think you're doing SoL a massive disservice there and before Saturday his performances in an international jersey were more convincing than Sinfield's, who has been dropped more than once for being ineffective.
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Re: Sean O'Loughlin Future Golden Boot Winner? : Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:23 pm  
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At all angles.

Sinfield has been the best 13 at club level for the past three years in super league as shown by the points he’s amassed and winning the big award. He’s also been instrumental in the international set up - not always I will admit that.

Sean O'Loughlin in comparison has just looked good in a few super league regular round games and you might want to chuck in a few challenge cup games and maybe the odd (not that anything really stands out) international.

Sinfield is an all round class act for both county and club level at the moment just like the Melbourne Storm lads who’ve been nominated rightly for the golden boot. Anyone who thinks Sean O'Loughlin is a better player I respect they opinion but they over glorifying him into something he’s not.


right then damo time for my return arguement.

sean o'loughlin has many aspects sinfield doesnt have, number one being a brutal defense. He puts so many shots on and his technique is fantastic. he also works the ground extremely well and is a very good niggler at the play the ball, he leads wigan by example with the aggression he puts into his tackles and he can be ferocious in the contact, i recall him putting a screaming shot on one of the castleford players in the playoffs off a richards drop out and the whole ground felt it that night.

O'loughlin also doesnt have the luxury to be surrounded by a top quality team; especially this season since the departure of barrett, Oloughlins leadership skills, which have been brought into question in the past, have shone this season and he is developing into a fine captain. No doubt he will always be compared to previous 13's who have played for wigan but in his own right SOL could become a wigan legend at 13.

O'Loughlin also has an attacking game and that was evident to see throughout this season, he has stood up and has ran some cracking lines for wigan, he makes tremendous yards and has a varied kicking game (remember the city of manchester test when his kicking game was the turning point). o'loughlin is more of an out and out 13 whereas sinfield could be seen as more of a standoff, however sean also played stand off during his early wigan career quite successfully.

O'Loughlin also never fails to perform at international level, even when played out of position in the second row, he is extremely highly respected in australia as being a player who can cause the aussies some damage, also with his high impact defensive game he would go very well in australia. pity he is injured this year because i have no question lockers would be in that line up and rightfully so.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:29 pm  
It almost brings a tear to the eye as a long term Sean O'Loughlin supporter to see he's finally changed so many people opinions on him :lol:

He's a super player and is the only player that can hold a candle to Sinfield as a superleague 13. At that level Sinfield is outstanding but he unlike Lockers hasn't been able to transfer that form to the internationals until this series.

In future series there is a place for both in the 17 imo which we may not have thought before because Sinfield seems to have found a position at hooker that suits his game down to the groud. As for O'Loughlin he can play make at 13 if you need or he can play like Gareth Ellis in the second row and just run and bash people.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:40 pm  
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If tackling anything that runs in your direction is all it takes to make you an international forward, then Malcolm Alker must be the unluckiest player on the planet not to have 20 international caps by now.

Unfortunately for players like both O'Loughlin and Alker, you need to have something a little bit extra to make it at international level.


:lol: Clueless.
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: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:46 pm  
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:lol: Clueless.


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