: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:29 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Nobody would bother watching it, nobody cares about international league.

i do

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:32 am  

Catalancs wrote:

i do

Are you Irish,Scottish or Welsh ?

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:33 am  

Catalancs wrote:

i do

Me too.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:34 am  

with regard to the thread title, why don't we concentrate on the 4 nations first?

small steps with terms to international rugby league.
the semi-final attendances for the first union world cup in the rugby union mad country of new zealand were 17.768 and 22,576 and one of those games involved the hosts.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:38 am  

5 nations is probably 10 years away from being a competitive thing

and im talking australia, nz, england, france and wales.

you could add PNG to make it 6.

especially if they get an nrl team.

i think within 5 years the french will make massive gains and be not for off england.

celtic crusaders will help wales too so down the track clearly they have to enter the quad nations.

scotland and ireland need a SL team first and they are at least a decade away, maybe longer, maybe never.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:40 am  

dally messenger wrote:

5 nations is probably 10 years away from being a competitive thing

and im talking australia, nz, england, france and wales.

you could add PNG to make it 6.

especially if they get an nrl team.

i think within 5 years the french will make massive gains and be not for off england.

celtic crusaders will help wales too so down the track clearly they have to enter the quad nations.

scotland and ireland need a SL team first and they are at least a decade away, maybe longer, maybe never.

what about the yanks?

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:41 am  

Made me laugh yesterday when the commentater to the RU game said, 'who said nil nil can't be exciting' , it was crap, they was stood about most of the time. How that game gets good attendences i'll never know.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:21 pm  

Stick with the Four Nations first. We can develop a rivalry with the French then. France need a second SL team though so they can be more competitive and the game can get more interest there so that there is actually an event happening. The French don't have the same advantage as the Kiwis, as there aren't a load of French at English SL clubs (unlike in the NRL with the Kiwis).

In the mean-time, we've got the Euro-Nations Cup underneath the 4 nations that is developing those nations. In time we can add the winners of that to the 4N, develop a bit more, have some friendlies with teams other than France, introduce Championship/SL sides to our competitions, etc. But there is absolutely no point in having a competition where the winner will 100% be one team and that team will pretty much win all of their games. Australia may be dominant, but they are beatable (which has been proven). No European team has a chance against England at the moment.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:23 pm  

We had a six nations tournament a few years ago, just with Russia instead of Italy, and called the European Nations Cup. It did not raise the profile nor did it see tens of thousands of fans from around the home nations flocking to see it.

Michael.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:30 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

Stick with the Four Nations first. We can develop a rivalry with the French then. France need a second SL team though so they can be more competitive and the game can get more interest there so that there is actually an event happening. The French don't have the same advantage as the Kiwis, as there aren't a load of French at English SL clubs (unlike in the NRL with the Kiwis).

In the mean-time, we've got the Euro-Nations Cup underneath the 4 nations that is developing those nations. In time we can add the winners of that to the 4N, develop a bit more, have some friendlies with teams other than France, introduce Championship/SL sides to our competitions, etc. But there is absolutely no point in having a competition where the winner will 100% be one team and that team will pretty much win all of their games. Australia may be dominant, but they are beatable (which has been proven). No European team has a chance against England at the moment.

not simply in time. next years euro nations will involve france and will be a qualifier for the subsequent four nations.