Re: World club nines : Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:58 pm  

JB Down Under wrote: Australians spend nearly $12 billion a year on poker machines and three quarters of people who have a serious problem with gambling are pokie players. http://www.problemgambling.gov.au It's a shame only a very small fraction goes back into the communities. Take a look at the Panthers leagues annual statement to see how little of their fortune goes to local sport. I am sure you could justify clubs running opium dens if some of the profits went to RL! As for your example of Norths, 2012 they had a revenue of nearly $36mill and a profit of $1.2 mill so there goes your theory! You said: fMost of the NRL Clubs, and they invest those profits back into the game and community Now you admit 7 of 16 have financial problems. Which is it? People are free to gamble or drink or do whatever they wish that is legal. I am not their carer last time I looked. Penrith is a community club and is not making profifts for some private owner you realise? Read the article you posted about the 7 from 16 to answer your own question.

JB Down Under wrote: Australians spend nearly $12 billion a year on poker machines and three quarters of people who have a serious problem with gambling are pokie players. http://www.problemgambling.gov.au It's a shame only a very small fraction goes back into the communities. Take a look at the Panthers leagues annual statement to see how little of their fortune goes to local sport. I am sure you could justify clubs running opium dens if some of the profits went to RL! As for your example of Norths, 2012 they had a revenue of nearly $36mill and a profit of $1.2 mill so there goes your theory! You said: fMost of the NRL Clubs, and they invest those profits back into the game and community Now you admit 7 of 16 have financial problems. Which is it? People are free to gamble or drink or do whatever they wish that is legal. I am not their carer last time I looked. Penrith is a community club and is not making profifts for some private owner you realise? Read the article you posted about the 7 from 16 to answer your own question.

Re: World club nines : Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:09 pm  

Buggo wrote:

People are free to gamble or drink or do whatever they wish that is legal.
I am not their carer last time I looked.
Penrith is a community club and is not making profifts for some private owner you realise?

Read the article you posted about the 7 from 16 to answer your own question.

It's legal so it's ok?
You're are the CEO of BA Tobacco and I claim my £5,000,000,000,000,000!

Re: World club nines : Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:04 am  

Buggo wrote:

NRL Clubs are profitable or they would have gone broke like any other business would.

Just so you know. THey haven't been/ Loss after loss for some clubs like the Storm and Broncos over the years. Last season the Sea Eagles poster a very, very small profit after years of losses and just so you know they don't get money from their leagues club. North Sydney got $400k from their leagues club, but aren't an NRL club.

I suspect you are not as informed as you think you are Buggo. Some NRL teams receive a fair amount from Leagues Clubs, others don't. Some of the football clubs have been running at a loss. Again as JB has pointed out, the Leagues club have different boards etc and are no longer are bread winners for a first grade team. The TV deal was the turning point for many. And as GF has pointed out. There were clubs that went to the NRL and asked for an advance for the following season when it was announced. That is fact.

Re: World club nines : Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:42 am  

Here is a copy of the 2013 PANTHERS GROUP accounts for everyone's perusal. http://www.panthers.com.au/wp-content/u ... LC_Web.pdf

Here is a copy of the 2013 PANTHERS GROUP accounts for everyone's perusal. http://www.panthers.com.au/wp-content/u ... LC_Web.pdf

Re: World club nines : Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:30 am  

It sounds like this year we are definitely getting the 6 team WCC where 3 NRL teams play 3 SL teams over a single weekend. It also appears that two of the NRL teams are simply opting in to playing in it rather than needing to qualify, which makes it an absolute farce IMO. We also have no idea which English teams will compete, I think it should be GF winners, CC winners and league leaders. If this was announced sooner it would at least add a bit more incentive to coming top.

I'm not really sure what this expansion of the WCC acheives tbh. It's basically the same game we have now with two extra friendlies. I really wish the WCC would be taken more seriously, if properly planned and marketed a full on 8 team tournament featuring group stages and knock out rounds could be massive, especially over here. If the Aussies, as rumoured, don't want to play internationals next year then I would be looking at staging a World Club Competition next Autumn instead.

With regards to the 9s, the Auckland tournament will be here to stay for the time being due to last year's success. There was talk of invitational places for SL teams but that would be very disruptive to the SL season. Our own version at the Magic Weekend would have got my vote, it could have been played in Round 23 as a standalone tournament whilst the post-split fixtures were sorted, and get rid of the additional fixture aspect of the current MW format.

Re: World club nines : Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:52 pm  

Auckland pre season nines
Magic weekend European nines
NRL and SL gf to be aligned and played on same weekend
Proper world club final two weeks after GF's
World nines end oct.
Internationals November
That would do me