Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:49 am  

RLRealist wrote:

I read an awful lot of negative comments, most unfounded demeaning TWP yet fail to provide any substantial evidence that, that is the case.

Toronto owe money to their kit supplier..... This is a fact.
Toronto have not delivered a cent in TV revenue or sponsorship to the game.... That is a fact
Toronto is a side made up of journeymen anzacs and northern brits with a token Canadian in their squad. This is also a fact.
Toronto whined like bitches when they were told they wouldn't get their games. Scheduled the way the wanted..... This is Another fact

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:50 am  

RLRealist wrote:

So, do you lot still think Toronto will take the game away from you?

I read an awful lot of negative comments, most unfounded demeaning TWP yet fail to provide any substantial evidence that, that is the case.
As I wrote in my original post, there were pioneers who took the code to NSW and dramatically enabled the NSWRFU to switch to NU overnight and succeeded very well! Did anyone cry back then from the grim alleyways of Lancashire and Yorkshire?

Original post deleted - many warnings issued - posts exactly the same thing as a reply later in the thread.

This is not just any old troll - it's a very determined one.

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:03 am  

We all know that we have an image problem that holds us back. If you look at EuroSport you will also see a fair number of unfashionable or minor events which year in year out have high profile sponsors. I do not know what Longines watches (a Swatch brand) will pay to be associated with the regional final of Basque Pelota or Provencale Petanque but I imagine that the offer of a weekend in Aix holds more attractions than Wigan or St Helens. Here is an idea, what about a made for television event like a sevens competition mid season in a location overlooking the Med with UK and European teams sold for all it is worth. Union manages to sell the whole world sevens circus without distracting the big players from their major competitions. Of course if we tried we would probably announce it without a headline sponsor or tv deal and then dump the idea after one season. One last point, this concept is not new. Clubs in England and France already run similar so we know that the logistics work. The important point is to get a high calibre headline sponsor and a tv friendly format and a bit of glamour.

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:00 pm  

Levrier wrote:

We all know that we have an image problem that holds us back. If you look at EuroSport you will also see a fair number of unfashionable or minor events which year in year out have high profile sponsors. I do not know what Longines watches (a Swatch brand) will pay to be associated with the regional final of Basque Pelota or Provencale Petanque but I imagine that the offer of a weekend in Aix holds more attractions than Wigan or St Helens. Here is an idea, what about a made for television event like a sevens competition mid season in a location overlooking the Med with UK and European teams sold for all it is worth. Union manages to sell the whole world sevens circus without distracting the big players from their major competitions. Of course if we tried we would probably announce it without a headline sponsor or tv deal and then dump the idea after one season. One last point, this concept is not new. Clubs in England and France already run similar so we know that the logistics work. The important point is to get a high calibre headline sponsor and a tv friendly format and a bit of glamour.

I think Nines is a real gift-horse to be honest. We could very easily sell that as an event, highlight the skills of our flair players, and open ourselves up to audiences that may not have the interest in 80 minutes of arm-wrestling RL. If we want the sport to have more 'superstars', let's create an environment where the likes of Tomkins, Watkins, Gale, Williams and the rest can really put on a show for a young, enthusiastic crowd.

I've caught a fair bit of T20 this summer and it really is the blueprint for what we could do with a short-form event.

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:20 pm  

bren2k wrote:

And it's nice to see finally see some proper moderation of this kind of bilge - thank you Mild Rover.

+1

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:57 pm  

Levrier wrote:

We all know that we have an image problem that holds us back. If you look at EuroSport you will also see a fair number of unfashionable or minor events which year in year out have high profile sponsors. I do not know what Longines watches (a Swatch brand) will pay to be associated with the regional final of Basque Pelota or Provencale Petanque but I imagine that the offer of a weekend in Aix holds more attractions than Wigan or St Helens. Here is an idea, what about a made for television event like a sevens competition mid season in a location overlooking the Med with UK and European teams sold for all it is worth. Union manages to sell the whole world sevens circus without distracting the big players from their major competitions. Of course if we tried we would probably announce it without a headline sponsor or tv deal and then dump the idea after one season. One last point, this concept is not new. Clubs in England and France already run similar so we know that the logistics work. The important point is to get a high calibre headline sponsor and a tv friendly format and a bit of glamour.

world of sport wrestling is back on ITV, but we cannot get them to even bid for RL.

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:04 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Oh an original thread topic, how refreshing.

'"Joff" is one of the most thoughtful and sincere additions to the forum whom we have seen in years. We need more good men like him.

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:54 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Original post deleted - many warnings issued - posts exactly the same thing as a reply later in the thread.

This is not just any old troll - it's a very determined one.

Many warnings really? Funny, I've not seen any. Are you a moderator here or one in training?

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:01 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

world of sport wrestling is back on ITV, but we cannot get them to even bid for RL.

That is why the RFL has a marketing department, er wait, we do have a marketing department don't we?

Re: Northern England's Fear of Expansion! : Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:28 pm  

The image of rugby league to those outside the M62 corridor.