Re: 2015 crowd averages : Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:36 pm  

yorksguy1865 wrote:

Ive been logging the attendances all year of all 3 top divisions and in my mind the one that is the most important is the total average, which, including super 8s, was pretty much bang on 10,000 I think it was 9,997 if I worked it out right. This is significantly higher than last year which was about 1,000 less than that.
When you think as well that we had 24,000 at wigan/saints, 20,000 at hull derby, 40,000 at magic weekend and all the great Leigh and Bradford turnouts in championship, plus that 4,000 at Keighley than I think there should be optimism in the RL family this year.

This is all assuming the figures i got were correct of course =)

1. You've taken the top 8's season and compared it to the 14 team SL last year? Why not just compare it to a fish tank....it'd be as relevant!
2. So neither Wigan Saints or the Hull Derby sold out....and we didn't get the targeted 10 sell outs this year either.
3. Bradford were responsible for 33% of the entire championship crowds.....that's not good. Leigh 21%....not ideal either.

I'm all for massaging figures to suit, but the reality is like for like the regular SL season was down 1% on 2014 and the 11 extra games so far have brought in 80,000 fans...same fans mind you, not new ones.

1. 2015 Regular SL season average 8,920. This is against 9,006 for the corresponding 22 H/A fixtures in 2014....1% DOWN.
2. 2015 Super 8 fixtures average 9,896 which is 8% DOWN against regular season comparable fixtures
3. 2015 Middle 8 SL team attendances 14% DOWN against Regular season Attendances
4. 2015 Bottom 8 attendances 15% DOWN against regular season comparable fixtures
5. 2015 Middle 8 Champ teams attendances UP 18% against regular season attendances but 6% DOWN against comparable games v championship sides.


All the new system does is remove lower attended teams from SL, dropping them into higher level Champ teams and increases that average....whilst like for like attendances in comparable games are down across the board. It's a clever trick, but ultimately all they've done is get 80,000 of our existing fans to attend an extra game or two of the 12 new fixtures.

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:47 pm  

The Changing Man wrote: 2. So neither Wigan Saints or the Hull Derby sold out....and we didn't get the targeted 10 sell outs this year either. Wigan v Saints on Good Friday sold out - 24,054 http://www.wiganwarriors.com/match/report/229274

The Changing Man wrote: 2. So neither Wigan Saints or the Hull Derby sold out....and we didn't get the targeted 10 sell outs this year either. Wigan v Saints on Good Friday sold out - 24,054 http://www.wiganwarriors.com/match/report/229274

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:56 pm  

MattyB wrote: Wigan v Saints on Good Friday sold out - 24,054 http://www.wiganwarriors.com/match/report/229274 Phew.......that's Blakes job safe then

MattyB wrote: Wigan v Saints on Good Friday sold out - 24,054 http://www.wiganwarriors.com/match/report/229274 Phew.......that's Blakes job safe then

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:09 am  

yorksguy1865 wrote:

I think there should be optimism in the RL family this year.

Are you new to the RL family? Get back to predicting the death of RL just like the majority of RL fans for the last 100 years

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:06 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Are you new to the RL family? Get back to predicting the death of RL just like the majority of RL fans for the last 100 years

It's not the death of the game that worries me, but the lack of any actual plan to grow it. If this 888 is not about growth...it's about getting more cash from existing fans.

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:04 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Are you new to the RL family? Get back to predicting the death of RL just like the majority of RL fans for the last 100 years

I have been in the RL family ever since I was born lol however, unlike some people I aren't predicting the death of a sport when 86 less people on average turn out for the regular season, like changing man here is having anxiety attacks over. 86 people? 1% down on last year, its 1%, who cares really?!

You know at KC last game of season they did a memorial to all the fans who had died that year, only ones that family members had submitted to appear mind you, and there was like 20 people on that, suddenly we are reducing that 86, may those great fans rest in peace.

While we are on hull I wanna point out that the hull derby this year was the highest attended in 6 years I think. There has never been a sold out derby with the highest attended being 23,000. I would also guess that given stadium sizes, that wigan-saints attendance could be the highest in the super league era. Why don't people pick out the bits of positivity every so often, or at least give them a little mention, buck up peoples spirits and all that, I'm punching the air as I say this haha

You know, I met a guy a few months back who runs a bookshop in Colwyn Bay (or rhos on sea I forget exactly where I was seen as they are attached) who was a Widnes fan and you know what? He was into being positive about the sport as well. Now I know he comes on here so shout out to the north wales Widnes fan! I'm getting through those books I bought off you, stay positive my man!!

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:08 am  

Exiled down south wrote:

How many sell outs did Big Nige and his chum Blake predict as a KPI measure of success for 2015? How many was there??

None, they predicted none.

HTH.

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:12 am  

yorksguy1865 wrote:

I have been in the RL family ever since I was born lol however, unlike some people I aren't predicting the death of a sport when 86 less people on average turn out for the regular season, like changing man here is having anxiety attacks over. 86 people? 1% down on last year, its 1%, who cares really?!

You know at KC last game of season they did a memorial to all the fans who had died that year, only ones that family members had submitted to appear mind you, and there was like 20 people on that, suddenly we are reducing that 86, may those great fans rest in peace.

While we are on hull I wanna point out that the hull derby this year was the highest attended in 6 years I think. There has never been a sold out derby with the highest attended being 23,000. I would also guess that given stadium sizes, that wigan-saints attendance could be the highest in the super league era. Why don't people pick out the bits of positivity every so often, or at least give them a little mention, buck up peoples spirits and all that, I'm punching the air as I say this haha

You know, I met a guy a few months back who runs a bookshop in Colwyn Bay (or rhos on sea I forget exactly where I was seen as they are attached) who was a Widnes fan and you know what? He was into being positive about the sport as well. Now I know he comes on here so shout out to the north wales Widnes fan! I'm getting through those books I bought off you, stay positive my man!!

Stop it, we don't do positivity around here.
This is an internet forum for trolls, miserablists and the mentally disturbed in New Zealand.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:19 am  

JB Down Under wrote: NRL crowds this year 2015 crowd table 1. Brisbane 33,595 (+241) 2. Canterbury 19,684 (+4,259) 3. South Sydney 16,613 (-3,275) 4. North Qland 16,230 (+1,617) 5. Newcastle 15,891 (-1,725) 6. Sydney Roosters 15,661 (+1,559) 7. New Zealand 14,704 (-2,427) 8. Parramatta 14,699 (-4,089) 9. St George 13,651 (-2,405) 10. Melbourne 13,453 (-1,741) 11. Cronulla 11,925 (-706) 12. Wests 11,709 (-1,395) 13. Penrith 11,544 (+49) 14. Gold Coast 11,237 (-1,957) 15. Manly 10,955 (-1,658) 16. Canberra 9,629 (+21) 4 clubs improved crowds, 10 clubs crowds reduced, 2 stayed about same. Source: http://afltables.com/rl/crowds/2015.html Jesus christ look at parra

JB Down Under wrote: NRL crowds this year 2015 crowd table 1. Brisbane 33,595 (+241) 2. Canterbury 19,684 (+4,259) 3. South Sydney 16,613 (-3,275) 4. North Qland 16,230 (+1,617) 5. Newcastle 15,891 (-1,725) 6. Sydney Roosters 15,661 (+1,559) 7. New Zealand 14,704 (-2,427) 8. Parramatta 14,699 (-4,089) 9. St George 13,651 (-2,405) 10. Melbourne 13,453 (-1,741) 11. Cronulla 11,925 (-706) 12. Wests 11,709 (-1,395) 13. Penrith 11,544 (+49) 14. Gold Coast 11,237 (-1,957) 15. Manly 10,955 (-1,658) 16. Canberra 9,629 (+21) 4 clubs improved crowds, 10 clubs crowds reduced, 2 stayed about same. Source: http://afltables.com/rl/crowds/2015.html Jesus christ look at parra

Re: 2015 crowd averages : Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:32 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

Jesus christ look at parra

It must be the new system.