Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:45 am  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

must be mental health issues and we feel sorry for him, isn't that the thinking of some on here?
Utterly moronic, if this was in the US he'd be dead by now.

It was my thinking with regards to Malc Alker as it was clear that he was having problems in life as far back as being a Salford player with addiction to pain killers then problems with depression after retiring.

I don't remember saying i felt sorry for him.

Why generalise a whole forum and every rugby league player over something you read once? I genuinely felt the signs for Alker were the same as that i've seen of the likes of Terry Newton. One turned to crime, one turned to suicide.

That doesn't mean this whole forum thinks like that about the lot of them... but who knows. Maybe mental health issues are more of an issue with people who do things like this than society realises. And possibly instead of calling people with mental health issues "thick" "thugs" society should take it more seriously and be more concerned with how to tackle the issues rather than sticking a label on people to keep them at arms length.

Of course some people are genuinely just thugs who enjoy being thugs and should be locked up. Doesn't mean everyone is like that though.

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:29 am  

Do you reckon that the policeman with the taser shouted 5th and last before he shot the sixth?

On a serious note, that sentence seems extremely light for the number of offences that will have committed.

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:29 pm  

Psychedelic Casual wrote:

It was my thinking with regards to Malc Alker as it was clear that he was having problems in life as far back as being a Salford player with addiction to pain killers then problems with depression after retiring.

I don't remember saying i felt sorry for him.

Why generalise a whole forum and every rugby league player over something you read once? I genuinely felt the signs for Alker were the same as that i've seen of the likes of Terry Newton. One turned to crime, one turned to suicide.

That doesn't mean this whole forum thinks like that about the lot of them... but who knows. Maybe mental health issues are more of an issue with people who do things like this than society realises. And possibly instead of calling people with mental health issues "thick" "thugs" society should take it more seriously and be more concerned with how to tackle the issues rather than sticking a label on people to keep them at arms length.

Of course some people are genuinely just thugs who enjoy being thugs and should be locked up. Doesn't mean everyone is like that though.

Generalising? Since when is the word SOME the same as ALL?
Knowing a bit about depression and bi-polar to me the acts of the likes of Chase and most of the other RL players incl Moore is not a simple mental health issue, it's more of a simple I don't give a flying fig of a wrong un. You could define that as a mental problem but then we might as well excuse murderers, rapists, paedophiles and all sorts on the basis of not straight cognitive thinking
I called him a moron, for the act, I never said he was thick or a thug, his act WAS moronic, he endangered others lives, he then violently resisted arrest threatening to harm a police officer.
Do you think this is a mental health issue or do you think this is the act of a moron who doesn't give a flying f@@k about anyone except himself?

[Mild Rover]

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:19 pm  

Karen wrote:

I found it hilarious that they banned him from driving for 2 years yet sent him down for nearly that...unless the ban starts upon his release of course.

Reminds me of when we were to taken to court from school, as public observers. Part educational, part warning I guess. The lawyer for one of the defendants noted that he (the defendant) hadn't been in trouble with the police for nearly three years, as mitigation. Which seemed pretty weak to me in itself. The judge or magistrate (school was a long time ago!) then pointed out that the defendant had been in prison for the first two of those years and the plea for leniency was rejected. I'm still curious to know whether the lawyer was just a bit hopeless or whether it was a tactic that sometimes worked.

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:58 pm  

Karen wrote:

I found it hilarious that they banned him from driving for 2 years yet sent him down for nearly that...unless the ban starts upon his release of course.

That's correct - the ban will commence upon his release from prison.

The boy is a fool with a track record of criminality and violence. And as if we needed more evidence of his moronic mindset, his girlfriend is pregnant.

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:07 pm  

And as if we needed more evidence of his moronic mindset, his girlfriend is pregnant.

Maybe that's good planning, no sleepless nights feeding babies, changing nappies etc Give the lad credit

[Karen]

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:42 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Reminds me of when we were to taken to court from school, as public observers. Part educational, part warning I guess. The lawyer for one of the defendants noted that he (the defendant) hadn't been in trouble with the police for nearly three years, as mitigation. Which seemed pretty weak to me in itself. The judge or magistrate (school was a long time ago!) then pointed out that the defendant had been in prison for the first two of those years and the plea for leniency was rejected. I'm still curious to know whether the lawyer was just a bit hopeless or whether it was a tactic that sometimes worked.

I'm more inclined to believe the former!

[Karen]

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:44 pm  

Cronus wrote:

That's correct - the ban will commence upon his release from prison.

Fair enough then, I just wouldn't put anything past the British judicial system!

Such a shame, another good player who has thrown his career down the drain.

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:05 pm  

Lord Byron wrote: Do you reckon everyone should get Quick Extender Pro that the policeman with the taser shouted 5th and last before he shot the sixth? On a serious note, that sentence seems extremely light for the number of offences that will have committed. That's what my first thought was. The sentence doesn't seem to fit the offences at all. I wonder what was the reasoning behind it.

Lord Byron wrote: Do you reckon everyone should get Quick Extender Pro that the policeman with the taser shouted 5th and last before he shot the sixth? On a serious note, that sentence seems extremely light for the number of offences that will have committed. That's what my first thought was. The sentence doesn't seem to fit the offences at all. I wonder what was the reasoning behind it.

Re: Moore please : Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:12 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

must be mental health issues and we feel sorry for him, isn't that the thinking of some on here?
Utterly moronic, if this was in the US he'd be dead by now.

just to confirm, are you saying that its a good thing he'd be dead if he were in america?