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Posted by Zulu01 on Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:08 am
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Call Me God wrote:
......12 away fixtures on the trot in 2018 then at home for the rest of the season...yeah...that's a hardship!

They are over the cap without a doubt and now they have skewed the fixtures to give them a straight run in at the business end of the season.........I'm all for expansion but this team was "sold" to us as paying for away travel, no favours, pulling their weight, new TV markets......Premier Sports is a basement channel who'll have paid little if anything for access to the rights but "it looks good" that Toronto are on TV, they never EVER had more than 5k in their stadium for a home game and their "sponsor" is saving hundreds of thousands by not having to fly the team every week and an away team every other week...........I can see the wheels coming off this bandwagon pretty soon once the 12 SL chairmen who now run SL smell the rat.......they have reduced the playing pool by 30 and have delivered nothing else.


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Posted by PrinterThe on Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:16 am
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Call Me God wrote:
they have reduced the playing pool by 30 and have delivered nothing else.


Why in RL do things have to deliver within 12 months or declared a flop? Patience of RL fans is embarrassing.
Posted by Call Me God on Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:34 am
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Why in RL do things have to deliver within 12 months or declared a flop? Patience of RL fans is embarrassing.

It has nothing to do with patience. As a London Broncos fanatic I applaud expansion, but with every turn, twist and wriggle, I feel that Toronto are a classic case of Smoke and Mirrors and they are now playing with an extremely stacked deck for nothing other than winning an amateur division with a lower SL grade side that cost them more than the other teams in C1 combined!

2018 They get all their home games in a row......really good for getting a brand established whilst when they are "away" the vast majority of their squad will actually be able to live at home in the north of England.....their TV deal delivers NOT ONE BRASS FARTHING to the UK game and their PR stunt of a TV show delivered not one recruit.......I don't expect a LMS or a Tony Clubb for at least 15 years, but the REALITY is that Toronto are a rich blokes experiment that to date has delivered nothing other than inflated gate announcements and a SL standard side whipping part timers over a season.
We were assure of no favours being given....so why not make them play 1 home 1 away and let them find a suitable ground? Home advantage means little to this side or mercenaries......but travel at that level will have an impact on both the players and more importantly, the sponsor, who as far as I can see is about 720 flights better off due to this skewed fixture list.
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Posted by WiggysView on Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:24 pm
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luke ShipleyRed wrote:
It is reported in league Express, that several championship clubs have expressed there concern to the RFL after it has emerged that they were unaware of a deal that premier sports had agreed with the games governing body to broadcast Toronto games from there grounds in 2018. A number of clubs raised their concern about a failure to be consulted by any party.

There is also confusion at why premier are being allowed to Broadcast from there ground at no cost.
And at the fact that Sky own the rights to the Championship (though they refuse for some reason to show any games apart from summer Bash).

Does anyone at the RFL actually know what they're doing. This is basic stuff, get in touch with the clubs and sky. And come to some sort of agreement (it's not hard).
And this is who we entrust to take the game forward, or even look after the game?
God help us.


I think they tend to 'forget' that RL exists outside of the Super League and the expansion teams...
Posted by WiggysView on Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:24 pm
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luke ShipleyRed wrote:
It is reported in league Express, that several championship clubs have expressed there concern to the RFL after it has emerged that they were unaware of a deal that premier sports had agreed with the games governing body to broadcast Toronto games from there grounds in 2018. A number of clubs raised their concern about a failure to be consulted by any party.

There is also confusion at why premier are being allowed to Broadcast from there ground at no cost.
And at the fact that Sky own the rights to the Championship (though they refuse for some reason to show any games apart from summer Bash).

Does anyone at the RFL actually know what they're doing. This is basic stuff, get in touch with the clubs and sky. And come to some sort of agreement (it's not hard).
And this is who we entrust to take the game forward, or even look after the game?
God help us.


I think they tend to 'forget' that RL exists outside of the Super League and the expansion teams...
Posted by Wigg'n on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:24 pm
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Beaumont bends over to expansionism:
https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/01/1 ... -from-lsv/
Posted by Alan on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:40 pm
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Wigg'n wrote:
Beaumont bends over to expansionism:
https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/01/1 ... -from-lsv/


Or, Beaumont agrees to live coverage of the game, after dialogue with the opposition, the RFL and the broadcaster. That's really the way it should have been done in the first place, surely?

Coincidentally, at the same time, Toulouse have announced that their home game with Leigh has been switched to Albi - 'only' 75km from Toulouse - with no consultation with the Leigh club, whose supporters have been told that 'there is a good train service between the towns'!

Apparently, Leigh are waiting until nearer the date of the home fixture with Toulouse, to advise them that the venue is being switched from LSV, to New York, as a promotional exercise! :wink:
Posted by Cokey on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:53 pm
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Alan wrote:
Or, Beaumont agrees to live coverage of the game, after dialogue with the opposition, the RFL and the broadcaster. That's really the way it should have been done in the first place, surely?

Coincidentally, at the same time, Toulouse have announced that their home game with Leigh has been switched to Albi - 'only' 75km from Toulouse - with no consultation with the Leigh club, whose supporters have been told that 'there is a good train service between the towns'!

Apparently, Leigh are waiting until nearer the date of the home fixture with Toulouse, to advise them that the venue is being switched from LSV, to New York, as a promotional exercise! :wink:


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