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Re: Time to move to 12 a side ?
Post Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:30 pm
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Bring in 2 refs, reduce the interchanges to 10, and police the ruck properly, that would go a long way to improving the game as a spectacle.
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Re: Time to move to 12 a side ?
Post Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:14 pm
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Charlie Sheen wrote:
Bring in 2 refs, reduce the interchanges to 10, and police the ruck properly, that would go a long way to improving the game as a spectacle.

Agree with this. I think that would help.

I’m kind of tempted at looking at changing the rule on the touchline. Defences have become very adept at putting wingers in touch whenever they’re within 5 metres of the touchline. Effectively reducing the width of the pitch as wingers are very reluctant to take defenders on on the outside except when attempting to dive over for a try.

Should we maybe look at changing the rules to make it where if you run or are tackled into touch you don’t forfeit possession, you just play the ball in line with where you went in touch?

It might encourage wingers to have a go and encourage more passing out to the wings?
Re: Time to move to 12 a side ?
Post Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:57 pm
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Judder Man wrote:
Just need the refs to do there job and keep the players 10 metres onside properly and stop all the messing about at the play the ball. Sort those 2 things out and we might see a more open game.


This by a country mile. Too much advantage is gained from getting away with it and more often than not dictates the victor. Coaches and players know this, scrap the skills and work on the wrestle is not good for the sport
Re: Time to move to 12 a side ?
Post Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:26 pm
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Judder Man wrote:
Just need the refs to do there job and keep the players 10 metres onside properly and stop all the messing about at the play the ball. Sort those 2 things out and we might see a more open game.

Spot on. So many games you watch nowadays and defences are no more than 8 meters back at best and are literally on top of attacks before they can think. Enforve the 10 meter rule properly and we'll see more attackng moves and a more expansive game full stop.

Also as someone else mentioned, refs need to call held quicker and get the game moving along.
Re: Time to move to 12 a side ?
Post Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:10 am
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I have a theory on this, top clubs say the skill level has dropped because of salary cap while the athleticism has continued to increase resulting in the grind becoming the blueprint for success.
At Cas it's gone the opposite way, the increase in TV money means we have been able to spend up to the cap in recent years ,increasing our squad ,creating more competition for places and driving skill levels up so there has never been a move to simplify our tactics.
I don't think based on the GF you could say this style beats that style everytime because Leeds play the same tactic against Cas the last two years.

going forward I don't think there is much room for improvment setting higher standards of athleticism but there is room for setting higher standards of skill, If a team can do that and be successful on a budget then that's a game changer.
So I would wait and see before changing anything but reducing the number of subs would be my first choice and only allowing one marker would be my second choice.
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Re: Time to move to 12 a side ?
Post Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:00 am
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As a sport we change too much with little tweaks constantly, changes of format every few years etc. We should stop changing things and let the current format develop because two promotions in two seasons suggests it's working to me (albeit with the same two teams swapping places).

I do agree on the enforcement of the actual rules though and the ten metres at the ptb. Giving the attacking team the space they are actually supposed to have would make a world of difference. I'm not the sort who blames refs for everything because their job is hard and I don't think they deliberately get things wrong. If a second ref would help them get more things right then that's the only change I would make.
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