Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 12:39 am  

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 73a5a240f1

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 73a5a240f1

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 6:20 am  

I think it's a real shame. He must be one of Fiji's biggest sporting stars; I'n sure he must be a household name there. The Aussies shouldn't (and don't) him, they have plenty to choose from. But we've seen it before with Uate (and doubtless others too). Worst thing is, it's self-perpetuating: future talented youngsters from the Pacific nations will think, if he did it, I should go down the same route.

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 6:47 am  

That really does seem like bullsquirt doesn't it. He dreamt of playing for Australia ever since he moved to the country... Just 3 years ago? Yeah that's a lifelong dream... Bit I like the most is where he calls himself the best Fijian winger, So he is Fijian until it comes to wanting to acknowledge it on an international level, hmm... Lol

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 7:03 am  

This says more about international sport, than it does about the player.
Thankfully, I don't read The Telegraph but, I assume this is from their on line paper, rather than a giant headline in the actual broadsheet.
There is no hierocracy in "smearing" RL, when the England cricket team is loaded with overseas stars and the Union boys include the Vunipola brothers and Tuilangi.
It's the qualification rules that need to change and it's certainly time that the "south seas" players were prevented from changing their nationality at the same time as they change their socks.
IMO any player that plays for a country (at any level) should then have to represent that country for life, no if's, no but's.

Modern day sport is all about the money and without principle.

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 12:40 pm  

Er, it's the Australian Daily Telegraph, not the Torygraph...

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 3:24 pm  

I don't agree with having played for one country that's it but do think it should be far far harder to swap and change.
It should be at least after 7 years permanent residency or 3 years after citizenship and a permanent change in Nationality, no dual bullcarp.

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Tue May 03, 2016 5:03 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

This says more about international sport, than it does about the player.
Thankfully, I don't read The Telegraph but, I assume this is from their on line paper, rather than a giant headline in the actual broadsheet.
There is no hierocracy in "smearing" RL, when the England cricket team is loaded with overseas stars and the Union boys include the Vunipola brothers and Tuilangi.
It's the qualification rules that need to change and it's certainly time that the "south seas" players were prevented from changing their nationality at the same time as they change their socks.
IMO any player that plays for a country (at any level) should then have to represent that country for life, no if's, no but's.

Modern day sport is all about the money and without principle.

Agree that the qualification needs seriously looking at, especially to protect the smaller nations. Don't have a problem with guys who were born in one Country then moved with their parents as kids to another like what's happened with England cricketers like Stokes , Roy and the RU guys you mention. Or if you qualify because you're Mum or Dad are English say. Moving to Australia at 20 like Semi Radradra's done and not even having any parents born there is something else.

Funny thing is since you brought up Cricket, the Aussies are the absolute worst at whinging about foreign born cricketers especially after they lose The Ashes. Even guys like Kevin Pieterson has an English mother and had a British passport all his life and leaned just about all his Pro cricket in England and he still had to go through years of qualification.

I'm not sure you could say England cricket is loaded with overseas stars tbh. Even the ones you could question like Gary Ballance or Nick Compton even went to school here and are in and out of the side.

Where you say, if a player plays for one Country that should be it, it's why I've never agreed with Eion Morgan playing for England.

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Thu May 05, 2016 7:13 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

Agree that the qualification needs seriously looking at, especially to protect the smaller nations. Don't have a problem with guys who were born in one Country then moved with their parents as kids to another like what's happened with England cricketers like Stokes , Roy and the RU guys you mention. Or if you qualify because you're Mum or Dad are English say. Moving to Australia at 20 like Semi Radradra's done and not even having any parents born there is something else.

Funny thing is since you brought up Cricket, the Aussies are the absolute worst at whinging about foreign born cricketers especially after they lose The Ashes. Even guys like Kevin Pieterson has an English mother and had a British passport all his life and leaned just about all his Pro cricket in England and he still had to go through years of qualification.

I'm not sure you could say England cricket is loaded with overseas stars tbh. Even the ones you could question like Gary Ballance or Nick Compton even went to school here and are in and out of the side.

Where you say, if a player plays for one Country that should be it, it's why I've never agreed with Eion Morgan playing for England.

I'd go for the simple rule that, once you have represented ANY nation, that's it.

There shouldn't be any move from your original choice, end of story.

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Thu May 05, 2016 7:34 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'd go for the simple rule that, once you have represented ANY nation, that's it.

There shouldn't be any move from your original choice, end of story.

Agree with you there mate.

Re: Just spare us the BS. : Thu May 05, 2016 7:38 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'd go for the simple rule that, once you have represented ANY nation, that's it.

There shouldn't be any move from your original choice, end of story.

The problem with this and RL is that all the young kids over in Aus who have some form of heritage etc with another nation are just going to hold out and hope they get to represent Australia which severely weakens the other nations