Re: Widnes : Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:04 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

Because when any company makes redundancies, they do it based on a number of factors. Usually a scoring system. In reality, they usually weight that scoring system so the people they want rid of happen to come bottom of it. In some companies, they may weight things like being off sick, skills in certain areas etc. In Widnes' case, they could just put a high weighting on "injured or not" and "cost to the business". Then those who are high earners and injured will be the ones lowest in the scoring and made redundant. A crude way of putting it, but it'll be along those lines.
When companies make redundancies, they don't make absolutely everyone redundant, they cut a certain amount. That's what Widnes' administrators have effectively done.

I'll admit I'm unclear on exactly how this takeover has worked in terms of new/existing companies. Widnes have had a twelve point deduction so you have to assume that the debts have not been paid. So is it a newco situation we're looking at?
If it is then surely all of the staff have either tuped across or they have all had to renegotiate new playing contracts under the new company?

Re: Widnes : Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:16 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I'll admit I'm unclear on exactly how this takeover has worked in terms of new/existing companies. Widnes have had a twelve point deduction so you have to assume that the debts have not been paid. So is it a newco situation we're looking at?
If it is then surely all of the staff have either tuped across or they have all had to renegotiate new playing contracts under the new company?

From what I've read, I believe the redundancies came by the administrators before the takeover, in order to cut costs. Then the remaining staff will have been TUPEd across one assumes. It's either that or those three players didn't want to be TUPEd and decided to leave instead (ala Kopczak). I'm only taking a guestimate on what I've read though, I'm not privy to the workings of the club. I certainly don't believe they're negotiating new contracts though, the remaining players are on their previous ones by the looks of things.

Re: Widnes : Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:18 pm  

mat wrote:

amazing how quickly RFL managed to approve the takeover. Every time we went through we had weeks of RFL ooming and aahing over approving the bidders. In Widnes case seems to have just been a formality. Suspect in our case they were more bothered about securing a paying tenant for their lease than any rugby related reasons.

Or these Widnes people are known to be fairly upstanding members of the community with no background of insolvency or being involved with questionable people. Unlike some of our previous takeovers. Allegedly.