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Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:43 am
Posted by paulwalker71 on Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:43 am
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Can't see why Butterworth would be a loan to Cas though. They're not short of options in the halves and hooker, and I can't see him getting a first team game for them just yet. A permanent signing would make sense as he's a long term option, especially if Adam Milner ends up going to the NRL as has been rumoured.


I agree

I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd

For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly
Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:02 am
Posted by Fr13daY on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:02 am
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So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the season: http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-

Anyone smell a backpedal.....?
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Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:24 am
Posted by Highlander on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:24 am
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He’ll get to train in a full time environment I suppose which wasn’t an option with us or Batley
Interesting to see how he develops.
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Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:37 am
Posted by wombull on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:37 am
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Fr13daY wrote:
So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the season: http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-

Anyone smell a backpedal.....?


Why do we always look for the negative's in everything " Back Pedal" AH I Forgot this is bradford were all following :?: , this will just be a case of lazy jurno's
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Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:52 am
Posted by MicktheGled on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:52 am
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Fr13daY wrote:
So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the season: http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-

Anyone smell a backpedal.....?


What initial press release was this?

The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green.

The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake.

Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season.

To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club."
Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:56 am
Posted by Scarey71 on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:56 am
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He’ll get to train in a full time environment I suppose which wasn’t an option with us or Batley
Interesting to see how he develops.


Agree.

It's a gamble though because if he shows too well they'll be after him, but if not then he's in the right mindset to take up the reins when he comes back...perhaps shows that CH Bulls will have more FT than this year so good to lay some foundations
Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:57 am
Posted by MicktheGled on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:57 am
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Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:03 am
Posted by Bulliac on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:03 am
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paulwalker71 wrote:
I agree

I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd

For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly


I think it's fair to say that the value a coach puts on any individual player, in any particular season, is going to depend what other players he has available, and on that basis I'd say that Green, as a big prop, is going to be more use to us in the first team this season than Reiss who has not been picked at that level all season. Cas may well be thinking longer term, and Reiss is very likely to develop into a good quality, higher division player but Cas are in the position of being able to take a longer term view than we are just now - for us it is imperative that we get out of this division at the end of the season.
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Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:47 am
Posted by RagingBull on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:47 am
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The number one aim at the minute has to be to get out of this league.
We have let Reiss go out on loan when in all honesty he is 4th choice at the min and have brought in a player who will straight away improve the side. Perfect timing with the hard couple of games comi g up and I'm sure Reiss will benefit massively being at Cas.

It's a win win as far as I'm concerned, and deffo an area of the side where there us room for improvement.

I may be being too harsh but I think Peltiers form has dropped off and Kirk and Wood don't seem to be having a huge impact in terms of taking us forward. Hopefully Greens arrival will see improvements I the middle of the park.
And as has been mentioned, there is more good news to come so all in all I'm very happy at the min.
Re: Reiss Butterworth
Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:53 am
Posted by Bull Mania on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:53 am
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paulwalker71 wrote:
I agree

I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd

For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly


Played very well in a struggling Batley team too. As Zapper said, if he does leave, it would be out loss, big time. It would be on par with watching Cameron Scott, Jake Trueman etc ply their trade at their respected clubs.

Only way i could see Cas taking him on loan, and him coming back to us, is maybe they want to trial him before purchasing him as a replacement for Milner. But i'll be very surprised if we see him in a Bulls shirt :(
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