Re: New Centre : Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:23 am  

bullinenemyland wrote:

I'd agree with that, but he was awful at times in defence last year too, only he got away with the dreaded drop due to lack of options. This year he's not been so lucky.

Ross is no doubt a great prospect but so are a lot of others in the squad and I think if he gets 10-12 games this year he will have done really well (same as Kirk as well).

If he is being asked at looking at something to win back his place, he really needs to look at his overall positioning, which is awful. Way too many times he either over commits and leaves his wingman exposed, or he simply drops off the tackle too easily.

Think Butler-Fleming is an improvement on Oakes but i don't think Gibson or Smith have done anything immediately wrong to deserve being dropped for a month.

I'm guessing part of the agreement is we have to take and play TW players as and when TW require.

Watched Oakes in the recent reserves game against Keighley, their side was fairly poor but we were looking to find him early and he had a fair bit of joy down his side. I'm looking forward to watching him next Thursday against Wigan reserves, coming up against a bit better quality in either Forsyth or Higginson to guage where hes at.

On the TW agreement, I cant see Kear being told what to do by them. I'm sure he has the final say and will only take from them if it is of benefit to the team and not TW. Doesn't strike me as a yes man

Re: New Centre : Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:44 am  

I think it's wrong that smaller clubs are dictated to by bigger clubs about playing players and dropping there own in order to satisfy. Look at York tom Sheens dictates what happens there

Re: New Centre : Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:50 am  

Molsk111 wrote:

I think it's wrong that smaller clubs are dictated to by bigger clubs about playing players and dropping there own in order to satisfy. Look at York tom Sheens dictates what happens there

I believe this is why Davies isn't playing.

Re: New Centre : Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:31 pm  

This deal makes even more sense now. Toronto have just signed Chase Stanley, and had Gary Wheeler back from injury last night.

You do have to wonder why they even signed JBF in the first place.

Re: New Centre : Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:22 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

This deal makes even more sense now. Toronto have just signed Chase Stanley, and had Gary Wheeler back from injury last night.

You do have to wonder why they even signed JBF in the first place.

Cos they have too much money. Sorry to say this but players going there are chasing the money.

Re: New Centre : Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:42 pm  

RickyF1 wrote:

Cos they have too much money. Sorry to say this but players going there are chasing the money.

Of course they are. And I have a suspicion it will bite them on the backside eventually in the same way it is doing Leigh. Players more bothered about the pay day and don't give two sheets about the club.

Re: New Centre : Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:59 pm  

I didn't see anything from Butler-Fleming today that made him seem a better option than Ross Oakes

Re: New Centre : Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:32 pm  

Agreed and Ricketts should be pushing the wingers close with a Hat-trick mid week. Fortunately for them though Grant picked one up today and Ethan hasn't done anything wrong.

JBF should be given his chance to prove his worth, however.

Re: New Centre : Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:55 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

I didn't see anything from Butler-Fleming today that made him seem a better option than Ross Oakes

I'm still not convinced on Oakes for reasons highlighted earlier.

I only saw bits of the stream today and not the whole game. While JBF didn't stand out in what I saw, he also didn't show a massive weak spot like Oakes has at times. And he's not as "heavy" as Lee Smith who he replaced. I'd be happy to give him chance to gel into the side before I judge him one way or the other.

Re: New Centre : Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:33 am  

Hard to judge from just yesterday's game because he never got the ball in space. None of our backs did because we barely managed to string a set of passes together. Grant's three tries were all from kicks. Gibson is completely removing Ryan as an attacking threat in our side through his poor centre play.