[Bullseye]

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:39 am  

He was out of control vs us. Got sinbinned IIRC. Bit of a liability.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:15 am  

JTCFJG wrote:

He has a lad called Joe,a tough Fijian. He is Hornet's Alan Rathbone. He has a 'Licence to Kill'.

Want him now?

Joe Taira, used to be called Joe Quanici played against us a fair bit for Mayfield. Very tough strong player. But he did lose the plot against us at home. Controlled aggression is whats needed to face up in this league. Kilshaw likes his sides being grubby, we dont want that reputation after all the damning of Leighs and Rochdales tactics

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:30 am  

Here we are again Training starts on Monday and still no news of an appointed coach, shame on Mr Toovey and the club for letting it go on for so long Players and fans let down again in my eyes!!

[Bulliac]

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:24 am  

Bullseye wrote:

He was out of control vs us. Got sinbinned IIRC. Bit of a liability.

To be fair, their whole team was an undisciplined rabble and that starts at the top with the way they are coached. He didn't look good against us, that's true, but he has some basic attributes and with a different coach in a different system it's maybe not fair to write him off?

Would I take the risk though? Mmm...tough one.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:21 pm  

zapperbull wrote:

Here we are again Training starts on Monday and still no news of an appointed coach, shame on Mr Toovey and the club for letting it go on for so long Players and fans let down again in my eyes!!

As a fan, why exactly have I been let down?
I don't feel let down. I am still sleeping well.
I do think it needs sorting soon but i do believe the players will be aware of what is going on and a week late won't harm them.
What Toovey and Chalmers will be discussing will be private and it doesn't concern me.
If we are still without a coach in a couple of weeks then yes, i will agree with you but not yet.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:29 pm  

Maybe Toovey is expecting the season to begin in July like last year when he took charge.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:52 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

zapperbull wrote:

Here we are again Training starts on Monday and still no news of an appointed coach, shame on Mr Toovey and the club for letting it go on for so long Players and fans let down again in my eyes!!

As a fan, why exactly have I been let down?
I don't feel let down. I am still sleeping well.
I do think it needs sorting soon but i do believe the players will be aware of what is going on and a week late won't harm them.
What Toovey and Chalmers will be discussing will be private and it doesn't concern me.
If we are still without a coach in a couple of weeks then yes, i will agree with you but not yet.

Let down in the way that the seemingly lack of organisation to get the coach confirmed before training starts smacks of lack of forethought on behalf of the club.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 am  

zapperbull wrote:

Let down in the way that the seemingly lack of organisation to get the coach confirmed before training starts smacks of lack of forethought on behalf of the club.

It's pretty simple to me.
I think it's clear that Chalmers and Lowe want Toovey to sign a new contract. Remember that's a contract to coach a third tier club. Who knows what off the wall structure the governing body will put in place for 2019? So everyone has to work on the assumption that it will be a minimum of 2 years before the Bulls might return to the top tier.
Toovey has been a coach, an assistant coach and a player at NRL play off level. He has been linked with various positions in Australia by well informed and well qualified commentators. I have not heard one of .those commentators dismiss his qualifications to be a serious candidate.
Of course he will want to explore those options. And he has his accountancy and business skills and experience so it's not as if he's without options outside the game.
The Bulls are not the stronger party in these negotiations.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:28 am  

Bullnorthern wrote:

It's pretty simple to me.
I think it's clear that Chalmers and Lowe want Toovey to sign a new contract. Remember that's a contract to coach a third tier club. Who knows what off the wall structure the governing body will put in place for 2019? So everyone has to work on the assumption that it will be a minimum of 2 years before the Bulls might return to the top tier.
Toovey has been a coach, an assistant coach and a player at NRL play off level. He has been linked with various positions in Australia by well informed and well qualified commentators. I have not heard one of .those commentators dismiss his qualifications to be a serious candidate.
Of course he will want to explore those options. And he has his accountancy and business skills and experience so it's not as if he's without options outside the game.
The Bulls are not the stronger party in these negotiations.

In fact, Toovey has been quoted as saying he only took the Bulls job as a favour to Chalmers and Lowe.

And as for the talk of restructure of the leagues? I don't see that happening. The current system can be called a success. P&R is in place and is demonstrated to be working, it was only because of the first year where Bradford screwed the pooch and failed in the MPG (as well as in a number of the qualifying matches) that they're the odd team out. After that, the MPG has been between to SL teams rather than the expected bottom of SL vs top of Championship match most thought they'd see.

Re: Is toovey the right man at this level? : Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:43 am  

I'm of a slightly different opinion on the league structure at the minute. Though it appears to be working it only works for clubs that are super league in set up and funding. (hence our plummet)

So what's the point of sending one club down for a year in the part time league every year? I suppose with Toronto it makes it slightly more interesting if they really go for it but all it really gives us is a set of SL teams with 2 of them in the Championship each year? What purpose does it serve?

Not a long stretch of the imagination to just say why not just extend the SL to add Leigh and Toronto. No PT clubs could make the transition over a season anyway? Whilst were at it why not just bring licencing back and have done with it?

Realistically, in my mind, the whole charade of play offs is just a conscience salve unless there are two leagues of full time teams that can compete consistently.

Bouncing Leigh and KR just makes it hard for them to build for SL, esp if they didn't finish bottom anyway? And there's more chance of England beating the aussies 96-0 in the final than ever standing up 2 FT divisions. There isn't enough money or skilfull players about?