Toulouse (a) : Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:40 pm  

Well with Oledzki, Hallas & Lilley all playing for Leeds tonight, we maybe hope that neither of them played too well for Leeds to want to keep them. Oledzki & Lilley both got tries, but without being there it's hard to say if that was good or just because they were playing a Champ 1 side. Dan Murray is in Salford's squad again this week for the Toronto game. Again, let's hope he doesn't play and they're happy to ship him back to us. Also would be nice to have Chissy available, but that looks like it'll go on for weeks, if not months. Mendeika has said on Twitter that he's fit again. I'd be tempted to put him back in the centre with Ryan back out on the wing so we can drop Macani. But if Lee Smith is fit, even better, we don't have to pick Macani or Mendeika. According the Bulls website, the team are using their time off WISLEY http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/49483/the-team-are-using-this-time-off-wisley-and-preparing-for-toulouse--ross-oakes- (Until useless media twonk corrects it)

Well with Oledzki, Hallas & Lilley all playing for Leeds tonight, we maybe hope that neither of them played too well for Leeds to want to keep them. Oledzki & Lilley both got tries, but without being there it's hard to say if that was good or just because they were playing a Champ 1 side. Dan Murray is in Salford's squad again this week for the Toronto game. Again, let's hope he doesn't play and they're happy to ship him back to us. Also would be nice to have Chissy available, but that looks like it'll go on for weeks, if not months. Mendeika has said on Twitter that he's fit again. I'd be tempted to put him back in the centre with Ryan back out on the wing so we can drop Macani. But if Lee Smith is fit, even better, we don't have to pick Macani or Mendeika. According the Bulls website, the team are using their time off WISLEY http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/49483/the-team-are-using-this-time-off-wisley-and-preparing-for-toulouse--ross-oakes- (Until useless media twonk corrects it)

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:08 am  

If we don't get any forwards I think it will be a big scoreline against us unfortunately.

Fingers crossed for Dane too.

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:19 am  

Didn't someone say that Chisholm's contract ends on the 1st may. Can anyone confirm that. If so, then he misses the next game and hopefully we sign him for nothing.

I expect us to get our loans back and look forward to seeing Lilley and Chissy together with one more on the bench.

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Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:41 am  

woolly07 wrote:

Didn't someone say that Chisholm's contract ends on the 1st may. Can anyone confirm that. If so, then he misses the next game and hopefully we sign him for nothing.

I expect us to get our loans back and look forward to seeing Lilley and Chissy together with one more on the bench.

To be honest, I can't see the owners being prepared to pay a fee. It's pretty obvious they thought Dane was a free agent and had severed his links with the club (or more properly that Sheffield had severed the links with him). Given how we've been so far, I'd guess that only his wages had been factored into the 'can we or can't we equation' and that any extras would probably end our interest. If he really is still contracted to Sheffield then his contract with us would surely be void anyway and my guess is that we'd just walk away.

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:58 pm  

I would guess the wage structure is very tight at Odsal and it won't cover signing fees. I wouldn't want them to pay anything but I do still expect to see him. We are probably missing out on a few decent signings simply because the owners are sticking to their wages policy. Annoying, but I can't see what else they can do. Signing one player on substantially more than the others could cause really bad feelings within the squad. I am thinking possibly Bailey here - may be wrong!

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:03 pm  

Well if it is the case that Chisholm's contract runs out 1st May, then I think we can wait it out rather than pay up two weeks worth to Sheffield.
To be honest, we need reinforcements up front as the games over easter showed that we're lacking in that department. Hopefully now easter is over we can get back some of the lads we had earlier in the year without the likelihood of them getting recalled to their parent club

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Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:49 pm  

woolly07 wrote:

I would guess the wage structure is very tight at Odsal and it won't cover signing fees. I wouldn't want them to pay anything but I do still expect to see him. We are probably missing out on a few decent signings simply because the owners are sticking to their wages policy. Annoying, but I can't see what else they can do. Signing one player on substantially more than the others could cause really bad feelings within the squad. I am thinking possibly Bailey here - may be wrong!

Suspect you're right about a tight wages policy, but can't imagine players are bothered about what the others are on - to be honest, it's the way of the world and everyone knows how it works in pro sport and a top 'show pony' will always get more than the 'grunt men', even though both are needed. It's simple supply and demand and it was ever thus.

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:14 pm  

Bulliac wrote:

Suspect you're right about a tight wages policy, but can't imagine players are bothered about what the others are on - to be honest, it's the way of the world and everyone knows how it works in pro sport and a top 'show pony' will always get more than the 'grunt men', even though both are needed. It's simple supply and demand and it was ever thus.

Well documented that Jamie Peacock's nose was put out of joint by being told they couldn't afford to give him a pay rise, only to later sign Iestyn Harris on silly wages.

It is the way of the world, but that doesn't stop people being annoyed if someone who they perceive as not as good as them, is paid more than them, even if they essentially do a different job. Lord knows I know how they feel and that's just in a normal workplace.

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:06 am  

HamsterChops wrote:

Well documented that Jamie Peacock's nose was put out of joint by being told they couldn't afford to give him a pay rise, only to later sign Iestyn Harris on silly wages.

It is the way of the world, but that doesn't stop people being annoyed if someone who they perceive as not as good as them, is paid more than them, even if they essentially do a different job. Lord knows I know how they feel and that's just in a normal workplace.

Not sure I see that being the case with Chisholm as he's apparently very well liked by the team

[Bulliac]

Re: Toulouse (a) : Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:42 pm  

HamsterChops wrote:

Well documented that Jamie Peacock's nose was put out of joint by being told they couldn't afford to give him a pay rise, only to later sign Iestyn Harris on silly wages.

It is the way of the world, but that doesn't stop people being annoyed if someone who they perceive as not as good as them, is paid more than them, even if they essentially do a different job. Lord knows I know how they feel and that's just in a normal workplace.

Basically, Jamie wanted a pay rise ( and deserved one, imo) from what I remember reading his book, his complaint was about not getting what he felt he deserved and chairman Caisley then allegedly telling him to go forth and multiply, if he didn't like it, (except he didn't say 'go forth and multiply'). Jamie said he felt "disrespected" and wanted to leave. I'm certain Jamie was fully au fait with the fact that a top halfback will always get more cash than the best prop, though he may well have been annoyed that the club hadn't budgeted for a rise since his deal hadn't been updated from before he became a GB player.