[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:27 am  

Best article I've read that sums up the pickle Labour are in: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/ju ... our-voters

Best article I've read that sums up the pickle Labour are in: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/ju ... our-voters

Re: O/T - General Election : Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:52 pm  

That was an excellent read.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 11:11 am  

The other day Radio Leeds were interviewing people in Castleford, many of which said they were voting Conservative. Now if ever there was proof positive that the world is entirely on its head then this is it. People in Castleford voting Tory? What the actual eff?! A town in the very heart of mining country has people in it who will cheerfully turn Blue.

I can only presume that Arthur Scargill will be doing the same. It's no less insane.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 1:35 pm  

I will be voting with my feet. Someone's getting their head kicked in. Very likely the first person to knock on my door to ask who I'm voting for.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 1:54 pm  

The only good thing to come out of this election will be the resignation of Corbyn

[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 1:57 pm  

I thought that but he might not go.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 2:50 pm  

daveyz999 wrote:

The only good thing to come out of this election will be the resignation of Corbyn

If Labour were going to have any chance whatsoever then Corbyn would need to walk before the Election rather than after.
The rot has set in for years since Teflon Tony and his USA love-in and a succession of complete prats leading the party is unlikely to change anything in the near future.
Up here we have Kezia Dugdale. Woefully out of her depth and cannon fodder for the SNP and Tories in Holyrood. She cannot arrest the slump in traditional Labour areas.
Scotland has ALWAYS been Red in my lifetime (until the freedom fighters got in) and now lie MILES behind Conservative up here.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 2:55 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

The other day Radio Leeds were interviewing people in Castleford, many of which said they were voting Conservative. Now if ever there was proof positive that the world is entirely on its head then this is it. People in Castleford voting Tory? What the actual eff?! A town in the very heart of mining country has people in it who will cheerfully turn Blue.

I can only presume that Arthur Scargill will be doing the same. It's no less insane.

The Tories got a council seat in Ferguslie Park in Paisley, which is one of the most downtrodden estates in the UK. This is pretty much unthinkable TBH.

They will do well in the Election as many of my fellow Scots now see them as the only alternative to the Provisional SNP who we need to get out, as soon as possible.

I wasted my vote in the Council elections as my protest vote went to the Labour Candidates. It will be Blue in June I am afraid as it is now not who I want IN, it is who I want OUT.

And there is no chance of Labour ousting them.

[Bullseye]

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 2:56 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

If Labour were going to have any chance whatsoever then Corbyn would need to walk before the Election rather than after.
The rot has set in for years since Teflon Tony and his USA love-in and a succession of complete prats leading the party is unlikely to change anything in the near future.
Up here we have Kezia Dugdale. Woefully out of her depth and cannon fodder for the SNP and Tories in Holyrood. She cannot arrest the slump in traditional Labour areas.
Scotland has ALWAYS been Red in my lifetime (until the freedom fighters got in) and now lie MILES behind Conservative up here.

Think it's too late now for Labour in 2017. However with a more appealing leader and front bench there's no reason they can't have a better shot at it in 2022.

Think Labour have a chance of turning it around in Scotland but it'd take time. The SNP are probably never going to get a referendum, even if they did a yes vote isn't a foregone conclusion. Perhaps Labour could do better by saying they'll do a better job as they're committed to the union but also prepared to stand up for Scottish interests in London whereas the SNP are obsessed with referendums?

Up there Labour need competent and convincing leaders though, just like down here.

Re: O/T - General Election : Tue May 09, 2017 3:14 pm  

I shall be voting conservative for the first time