Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:08 am  

Its time to go.

Thanks for getting us to the MPG and a shot at promotion but the latest childish tantrum on national TV is the final straw for me.

Add to the previous petulant rants on TV, threatening supporters, falling out with and banishing players, burning out other players by not resting them for meaningless games, not even giving some players a chance and too numerous to mention selection mysteries.

You are I am sorry to say now becoming an embarrassment to our great club.

Please do the decent thing and be true to your word and walk.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:37 am  

It's Warrington all over again. It is such a shame that such a great player falls short in coaching. The problem for Jimmy is what made him such a great player isn't the thing that a good coach needs to manage other players. Many top coaches were not top players - different skills!

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:52 am  

My main gripe with him is the way he conducts himself with the media and a lack of composure when things go against us. As a head coach I think you have to set the example for the players to follow and if the head coach is losing his cool then how can we expect the players to keep a cool calm head? His comment after the game are disappointing and unhelpful, the last thing the supporters wanted to hear last night is we might be going part time and cuts being made. If it's true, then Marc Green is living in dream land with his frozen season ticket prices.

But has he failed this year? Well ultimately I don't think you can say he has, we got to the game that would realistically see us promoted. He coached us through the season in preparation to be the best Championship side at the right time and succeeded. Could somebody else do a better job? Almost certainly there will be a few out there, but are they going to come to coach in the Championship?

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:00 am  

In relation to the outbursts others find embarrassing I much prefer a coach and a man who speaks his mind rather than someone who speaks in bland non confrontational sound bites we hear from so many in our game.
I disagree with some of his opinions and selection choices. But I've disagreed with many selection choices of previous coaches at our club . That is in the DNA of any fan.
I have even disagreed with the doyen of contemporary coaches, Wayne Bennett , currently preparing for the Aussie Grand Final. There are plenty of examples of Bennett taking fans and media to task .
One of the hallmarks of a good coach is being his own man - call it opinionated stubborn , ruthless if you want.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:15 am  

I think it would of made a bit more sense if Sky had interviewed somebody from Wakefield first yesterday. Going straight for the losing coach 2 minutes after the hooter had gone was the wrong thing to do. Not an excuse for his outburst though

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:19 am  

Bullnorthern wrote:

In relation to the outbursts others find embarrassing I much prefer a coach and a man who speaks his mind rather than someone who speaks in bland non confrontational sound bites we hear from so many in our game.
I disagree with some of his opinions and selection choices. But I've disagreed with many selection choices of previous coaches at our club . That is in the DNA of any fan.
I have even disagreed with the doyen of contemporary coaches, Wayne Bennett , currently preparing for the Aussie Grand Final. There are plenty of examples of Bennett taking fans and media to task .
One of the hallmarks of a good coach is being his own man - call it opinionated stubborn , ruthless if you want.

The thing is, if you be your own man and the team is successful, then you're a good coach. If you be your own man and the team run around the pitch like a bunch of headless chickens then you're not

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:32 am  

[quote="Bullnorthern"]In relation to the outbursts others find embarrassing I much prefer a coach and a man who speaks his mind rather than someone who speaks in bland non confrontational sound bites we hear from so many in our game.
I disagree with some of his opinions and selection choices. But I've disagreed with many selection choices of previous coaches at our club . That is in the DNA of any fan.
I have even disagreed with the doyen of contemporary coaches, Wayne Bennett , currently preparing for the Aussie Grand Final. There are plenty of examples of Bennett taking fans and media to task .
One of the hallmarks of a good coach is being his own man - call it opinionated stubborn , ruthless if you want.[/quote]

Yeah can't remember Bennett offering to fight one of his teams fans behind the stand.

Wouldn't call Brian McDermott, Shaun Wayne, Paul Anderson bland and non confrontational but neither are they an embarrassment to there clubs.

I'm happy for Lowes to be his own man, just not in charge of my club.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:33 am  

As an outside looking in you could say fans are being harsh on Jimmy as we were inches away from being in SL next year. Blythes no try, Addys kicks, Tanseys just creeping in. It was a matter of inches.

That said we need to make changes if we are to improve and as others have said, what made Jimmy great as a player could be his shortfall as a coach! Will he change his stance that Lauaki playing for 10 mins isn't good enough? Probably not. The fact he was ranting at Silverwood yesterday alarmed me that he couldn't see the problem. Our bench lost us the game. If he can't see that than he'll just make te same mistakes again next year. And while we coast a long beating part time teams while flogging Sidlow O'brien and Clough to death. Come he middle 8's those players simply can't handle carrying the bench and playing 70 minutes. All Wakefields tries were up the middle yesterday.

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:45 am  

[quote="Bull Mania"]As an outside looking in you could say fans are being harsh on Jimmy as we were inches away from being in SL next year. Blythes no try, Addys kicks, Tanseys just creeping in. It was a matter of inches.

That said we need to make changes if we are to improve and as others have said, what made Jimmy great as a player could be his shortfall as a coach! Will he change his stance that Lauaki playing for 10 mins isn't good enough? Probably not. The fact he was ranting at Silverwood yesterday alarmed me that he couldn't see the problem. Our bench lost us the game. If he can't see that than he'll just make te same mistakes again next year. And while we coast a long beating part time teams while flogging Sidlow O'brien and Clough to death. Come he middle 8's those players simply can't handle carrying the bench and playing 70 minutes. All Wakefields tries were up the middle yesterday.[/quote]

That to me is more shocking than some of his petulant outbursts, the fact he can't see what everyone else does.

[Bulliac]

Re: Sorry Jimmy but...... : Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:17 am  

It would have been better unsaid, I have to say, but Jimmy always did wear his heart on his sleeve and I can forgive him that.
Not quite so sure I can forgive him picking a bloke, and then only playing him for ten minutes. Nor, though I fully understand he was looking at the defensive side, for leaving all our pace back at Odsal.

In the final analysis, he did what he was asked to do - the final game was always going to be the biggest mountain to climb and we were always underdogs, despite the spin from elsewhere.
Onwards and ....onwards?