Re: Scumbags : Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:43 am  

This needs to be fixed quick, the Bulls and the visitors expect a safe parking area that's patrolled effectively. Sadly Bradford has its societal parasites like many cities.

Re: Scumbags : Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:31 pm  

Hang on, it's bad I agree IF they took money yet had insufficient security on Sunday - but they are looking into it, and let's get it in perspective, folk have been parking at Dunny's by the million for many years and this is the first report I've read of it being an issue. I and people I know have had cars robbed in all sorts of places and you'll rarely go somewhere where cars park, and not see smashed glass somewhere about. It was one incident, not Armageddon.

Re: Scumbags : Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:25 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Hang on, it's bad I agree IF they took money yet had insufficient security on Sunday - but they are looking into it, and let's get it in perspective, folk have been parking at Dunny's by the million for many years and this is the first report I've read of it being an issue. I and people I know have had cars robbed in all sorts of places and you'll rarely go somewhere where cars park, and not see smashed glass somewhere about. It was one incident, not Armageddon.

Would you have said the same if you had paid your money and come back to a car with bits removed and smashed.

Re: Scumbags : Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:28 pm  

barham red wrote:

Would you have said the same if you had paid your money and come back to a car with bits removed and smashed.

That if they took my money yet failed to take reasonable security precautions, they should pay? Well, yes. Bit of an odd question. Don't you agree?

Re: Scumbags : Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:11 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

That if they took my money yet failed to take reasonable security precautions, they should pay? Well, yes. Bit of an odd question. Don't you agree?

Not really, you were making out it wasn't a big issue, pretty expected in a car park.

Re: Scumbags : Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:36 pm  

If you have paid and security is provided, your vehicle then gets broken into then have every right to approach the company who provides the car parking facility. The "park at your own risk" comment if there is one is NOT an out clause for any company.
If all the cars decided boycott the car park see who bleats first.

Re: Scumbags : Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:02 am  

barham red wrote:

Not really, you were making out it wasn't a big issue, pretty expected in a car park.

Well, that would be because it isn't a big issue. If it starts happening every week then it will increasingly become an issue. But as it is 2015 A.D. and this is the first such report in the recorded history of man, then no, to date it can't be said to be a "big issue".

"Expected" is a silly choice of word, but no, occasional parked cars getting robbed doesn't come as a shock to most people.

[Bulliac]

Re: Scumbags : Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:20 am  

zapperbull wrote:

If you have paid and security is provided, your vehicle then gets broken into then have every right to approach the company who provides the car parking facility. The "park at your own risk" comment if there is one is NOT an out clause for any company.
If all the cars decided boycott the car park see who bleats first.

I expect that is basically how it is to be fair.

As a layman, I'd guess that, unless there are any specific regulations regarding owners of car parks, it depends on the contract, accepted by both sides with the paying and receiving of a fee, and what specifically was promised by the car park owner. The car owners maybe need to take 'advice'. So far as I know [please tell me if you know differently], I don't remember the word 'secure' being used, so probably, all that was actually promised was that people could park cars there. If that is the case the car owners would most likely have no legal comeback, but as you rightly say, if it continues many will start going elsewhere, or even worse decide not to come again. It's not something to be ignored, and that is a fact.

Re: Scumbags : Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:02 am  

Seems likely the victims will be told to foo cough, if this article is anything to go by http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars ... ounds.html

Seems likely the victims will be told to foo cough, if this article is anything to go by http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars ... ounds.html

Re: Scumbags : Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:40 am  

Bulliac wrote:

I expect that is basically how it is to be fair.

As a layman, I'd guess that, unless there are any specific regulations regarding owners of car parks, it depends on the contract, accepted by both sides with the paying and receiving of a fee, and what specifically was promised by the car park owner. The car owners maybe need to take 'advice'. So far as I know [please tell me if you know differently], I don't remember the word 'secure' being used, so probably, all that was actually promised was that people could park cars there. If that is the case the car owners would most likely have no legal comeback, but as you rightly say, if it continues many will start going elsewhere, or even worse decide not to come again. It's not something to be ignored, and that is a fact.

The problem with this is that if the cars were parked on the street or in a 'non-official' car park then the park somewhere else option would be to park on the clubs official car park. As this was where the cars were parked the other options are potentially worse. I've known cars get damaged at a lot of grounds but as of yet this is the first instance occurring in the car park the club either provides or suggests for away fans.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

barham red wrote:

Not really, you were making out it wasn't a big issue, pretty expected in a car park.

Well, that would be because it isn't a big issue. If it starts happening every week then it will increasingly become an issue. But as it is 2015 A.D. and this is the first such report in the recorded history of man, then no, to date it can't be said to be a "big issue".

"Expected" is a silly choice of word, but no, occasional parked cars getting robbed doesn't come as a shock to most people.

Thats alright then, maybe when it happens, what shall we say 10 more times, then it will be classed as an issue.

Working on that logic nothing is an issue if it hasn't been reported before.