Re: Administration : Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:42 pm  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

Which would be great if you were able to articulate yourself in a coherent manner and not spurious Orwellian guff.

What part of my previous post was incoherent?

i really do feel for you Bulls fans, well the ones that will buy a season ticket next year at full price at least.

The rest of you can go back to watching football.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:45 pm  

I find the VAT issue just too incredible to believe. Mainly because it it is true and the VAT liability had been established, wouldnt the new Board have been shouting it from the roof tops?

Re: Administration : Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:47 pm  

jammle wrote:

:CLAP:

an articulate post with no words - brilliant!

Re: Time to move forward..... : Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:03 pm  

Incredibullman wrote:

For fear of repetition, but it's clearly necessary because it was treated with some element of disdain in my initial posting, the club still owe HMRC SIGNIFICANT amounts of money, primarily due to none payment of VAT over a period of 2 years. The directors in situ previously were aware of this (and indeed the current CEO) and that concerns me.

This is complete and utter fiction and mendacious to boot.
HMRC are owed paye on last month's wages and £250,000 to be paid over 5 months.
Where on earth did you get off printing such calumny.
Shame on you.

Because Peter, it's true. As you well know.

You also know that HMRC wouldn't issue a winding up order if an AGREEMENT had been made (particularly if you are suggesting you 'arranged' this some months ago) over a 5 month period. That tells me much of what I need to know.

Shame on you for your continual lies that has got us to this position. You might be fooling yourself, but you ain't fooling me or the vast majority of Bulls fans.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:28 pm  

I dont know how they have been able to miss paying vat for 2 years.
They would of have reminders and late payment fees added over that time.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:38 pm  

Well GB, think PH knows what "calumny" means. Because you obviuosly don't!

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:40 pm  

fcgrandad wrote:

I dont know how they have been able to miss paying vat for 2 years.
They would of have reminders and late payment fees added over that time.

Likewise - if the club had suddenly gone from being a VAT creditor to a VAT debtor, I would be very surprised if the HMRC did not come out to investigate before making any VAT repayments back to the club. I had a similar situation at work and before HMRC released the VAT repayment they insisted on conducting an audit to ensure there was no impropriety.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:45 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18437695 The above article goes into a little more detail, but contains no mention of any additional VAT money owing, apart from the sale of the stadium. "The club owes HM Revenue & Customs £90,000 in payroll tax, plus £250,000 in VAT from the sale of the stadium. The Bulls need more than £1m to survive to the end of the season, despite recently raising £500,000 through fan pledges, gate receipts and an auction. It now has two weeks to raise funds or find new investment. The figures were passed to BBC Radio Leeds by Brendan Guilfoyle of The P&A Partnership, the company brought in by the club to review the state of its finances."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18437695 The above article goes into a little more detail, but contains no mention of any additional VAT money owing, apart from the sale of the stadium. "The club owes HM Revenue & Customs £90,000 in payroll tax, plus £250,000 in VAT from the sale of the stadium. The Bulls need more than £1m to survive to the end of the season, despite recently raising £500,000 through fan pledges, gate receipts and an auction. It now has two weeks to raise funds or find new investment. The figures were passed to BBC Radio Leeds by Brendan Guilfoyle of The P&A Partnership, the company brought in by the club to review the state of its finances."

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:46 pm  

Incredibullman wrote:

Well GB, think PH knows what "calumny" means. Because you obviuosly don't!

Peter, your ability to perform a role as 'Bottom' in a Shakespearean play continues with your malapropisms.

Since calumny refers to slander (and not libel, which the written word relates to) your use of the term is thoroughly incorrect.

Secondly, it would only be either slander or libel if it was untrue and you chose to challenge that legally. Be my guest.

Oh, and learn to spell "obviously".

You continue to be full of ironies. And untruths.

Re: Latest financial situation - all posts here : Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:16 pm  

fcgrandad wrote:

I dont know how they have been able to miss paying vat for 2 years.
They would of have reminders and late payment fees added over that time.

I think the insinuation is that they never included VAT on the season tickets, hence HMRC wouldn't have initially known there was a VAT liability to send them reminders about. .