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New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:17 pm  
I see they've sold another one. Widnes the predator this time, snapping up international Gil Dudson for around £5.

If the Goons have any talented young players, we should just throw a bid in, we could do a TV show called 'Down Wigan Dickering' or 'Pie Pickers'. Start off at £5k for their best young players and meet them in the middle at £7.5k. They just cannot resist a bid that lot.

Makes you wonder what is going on at Wigan. Are they after a new signing themselves and clearing some hopeless deadwood to make way, or are they just doing that poorly financially (What with their clearly unsustainable business model and all) that they need to sell two or three players a season to break even?

Who have they got left in the pack now? Crosby, Mossop, Tautai and Flower? Is that it? Not great to start with and very lacking in depth when you consider Mossop will be injured for 9/10ths of the season, Flower will be banned then acting like a Nun when he returns. Poor Crosby and Tautai could be doing huge minutes.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:59 pm  
Flower and Patrick, Greenwood and Sutton that's plenty cover.


Also a RUMOUR that Ben Botica could be heading to Wigan. He wouldn't count on the salary cap for this year either.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:13 pm  
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Flower and Patrick, Greenwood and Sutton that's plenty cover.


Also a RUMOUR that Ben Botica could be heading to Wigan. He wouldn't count on the salary cap for this year either.


Who the hell is Ben botica ?

What will your pack look like to start 2015 ?
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:22 pm  
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Who the hell is Ben botica ?

What will your pack look like to start 2015 ?


Frano Boticas son (plays centre or stand off) and is a very good goalkicker. he's currently playing at Harlequins RU.

I'm guessing the pack will be
Mossop, McIlorum, Crosby
Tomkins, Farrell
O'Loughlin

Patrick, Tautai, Bateman, Clubb
Flower, Greenwood, Sutton
Powell, Tomkins
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:01 pm  
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Frano Boticas son (plays centre or stand off) and is a very good goalkicker. he's currently playing at Harlequins RU.

I'm guessing the pack will be
Mossop, McIlorum, Crosby
Tomkins, Farrell
O'Loughlin

Patrick, Tautai, Bateman, Clubb
Flower, Greenwood, Sutton
Powell, Tomkins


Backrow looks strong, I think you might struggle at prop. We won't see flower for a good while and mossop is a risk with his injuries.

I usually look at wigans prop and think I don't think we can match them but I'm not thinking that with Wigan 2015 props.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:17 pm  
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Backrow looks strong, I think you might struggle at prop. We won't see flower for a good while and mossop is a risk with his injuries.

I usually look at wigans prop and think I don't think we can match them but I'm not thinking that with Wigan 2015 props.


I think the pack is fine, with probably more strength in depth than most teams. My concern is at centre where we only have Gelling and Sarginson fit at the moment. Thornley won't be back until April / May and I don't want to overplay Gildart despite him being a very good prospect. I suppose we could play Bateman or Thornley there if we get any injuries or even Charnley. In reality it's hard to keep an experienced centre in reserve.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:21 pm  
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I think the pack is fine, with probably more strength in depth than most teams. My concern is at centre where we only have Gelling and Sarginson fit at the moment. Thornley won't be back until April / May and I don't want to overplay Gildart despite him being a very good prospect. I suppose we could play Bateman or Thornley there if we get any injuries or even Charnley. In reality it's hard to keep an experienced centre in reserve.


I just don't think those props are the usual wane type of prop. They ain't big and rough like the ones you have lost in Taylor, dudson and pettyborne.

I don't think larne Patrick is best at prop, he's not big tough style prop, I think he's best in the second row. I'm not saying our props are great but I'd be little worried if I had the wigan props if I'm being totally honest.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:40 pm  
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I think the pack is fine, with probably more strength in depth than most teams. My concern is at centre where we only have Gelling and Sarginson fit at the moment. Thornley won't be back until April / May and I don't want to overplay Gildart despite him being a very good prospect. I suppose we could play Bateman or Thornley there if we get any injuries or even Charnley. In reality it's hard to keep an experienced centre in reserve.


Bateman would do very well in that position IMO.

I'm a bit surprised at Dudson though, thought he was better than Crosby with hit ups and tackles.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:14 am  
Mossop is injury prone and was never that good the first time around.

Crosby has been battered by Masoe twice now. What was it, 20 odd metres in the Grand Final he made ? Laughable.

McIlorum is huge for Wigan.

Tomkins looks a total turkey since he came back. Nothing to be feared.

Farrell and O'Loughlin very good players although O'Loughlin now has serious doubts on his ability to get on the field.

Like Tautai, he's a good signing. Patrick is very, very lightweight and I can see him struggling against the likes of our pack. Bateman a yard dog but good player. The rest are kids. Decent enough but nothing to be afraid of at all.
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Re: New Year Sales at Wigan : Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:15 am  
St pete wrote:
I just don't think those props are the usual wane type of prop. They ain't big and rough like the ones you have lost in Taylor, dudson and pettyborne.

I don't think larne Patrick is best at prop, he's not big tough style prop, I think he's best in the second row. I'm not saying our props are great but I'd be little worried if I had the wigan props if I'm being totally honest.


Taylor is a loss (when his heads right) but the other two have been below average in their time at Wigan and in Dudsons case looked to be going backwards rather then improving. We may be a bit short early doors and could see Sutton and Greenwood get a few games but both had good seasons last year when they played (Greenwood for Quins). Once Flower and Mossop are back we'll be fine and we'll probably see a couple of experienced guys sitting outside the 17.

What's Saints likely starting pack going to look like? And who adds the depth? Just curious how it looks in comparison.
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