Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:36 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I'd argue Tomkins is not a centre. For me he is always a second rower. But other than that, they do seem to be missing some bulk.

To be honest, I'm not sure what Tomkins is. Sure, he's big, quick and has good hands. But he doesn't seem to possess a great rugby brain (which is a problem if he's playing at centre) and he doesn't exercise his clear advantage in physicality in defence (which is a problem if he's playing in the pack).

A rugby brain is something you're born with. It's not something you can impart to a player on the training pitch. But running your weight and hitting the same in defence is purely a question of determination and commitment.

His development has been severely impaired by his time mud-wrestling down south. Had he stayed at Wigan I think he would have been forced to address his lack of physical involvement or face being shipped out. Either way, Wigan would be better off than they are right now.

His future really is in his own hands. I guess his performance this year (when he can offer no excuses) will go a long way to determining his legacy for those looking back from the future.

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:58 am  

Not sure about envy-o-meter but the arrogance-o-meter is in full swing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32299159 "If he'd stayed on we'd have won by 30 points, everyone knows that."

Not sure about envy-o-meter but the arrogance-o-meter is in full swing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32299159 "If he'd stayed on we'd have won by 30 points, everyone knows that."

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:11 am  

I think if he'd stayed on we'd have won by forty points.

Easy isn't it!

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:22 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote: Not sure about envy-o-meter but the arrogance-o-meter is in full swing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32299159 "If he'd stayed on we'd have won by 30 points, everyone knows that." Won a few games have they? Didnt hear a peep out of him before good friday

The Yellow Giraffe wrote: Not sure about envy-o-meter but the arrogance-o-meter is in full swing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32299159 "If he'd stayed on we'd have won by 30 points, everyone knows that." Won a few games have they? Didnt hear a peep out of him before good friday

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:15 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I think if he'd stayed on we'd have won by forty points.

Easy isn't it!

If we'd had Luke Walsh we'd have won by 60 ...

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:23 pm  

Funny they didn't put 30 points on a poor 12 man Widnes then isn't it.

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:37 pm  

The bloke is a complete and utter clown. He had a few weeks where he looked like he had toned it down and his friendship/respect with Cunningham seemed to curb his verbal diarrhoea. But as Pete says, a few wins and now he's back to his usual self.

Oh well, it just makes the thought of beating them and winning trophies later in the year even sweeter.

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:50 pm  

The blokes a fool! (Cas)

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:16 pm  

I've always been a fan of Chris Brudge as a centre and he has just completely schooled Dan Sarginson.

Re: The Wigan Envy-O-Meter. : Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:30 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I've always been a fan of Chris Brudge as a centre and he has just completely schooled Dan Sarginson.

Twice.