Re: Furner out : Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:32 pm  

christopher wrote:

You’re missing the point, no rhinos fan will be happy with our league position or how the team is performing.

I said before the season started that we as fans will have to be patient this was never a quick turnaround job. The club have said so, sacking Furner 11 games in will achieve nothing, bar the top few sides the table is very close and it’s difficult predicting who will beat who we could end up mid table in a few games time, I still believe we can put a run of performances together.

In all seriousness I do agree it's going to take time but I'm extremely concerned we are in real danger of relegation.

Re: Furner out : Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:56 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

In all seriousness I do agree it's going to take time but I'm extremely concerned we are in real danger of relegation.

Come back in 10 games if we are bottom 2 then I will agree with you, were not half way through season and a lot can happen

Re: Furner out : Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:59 pm  

Surely Furner us responsible for the overseas recruitment . Both Lolohea and Merin look overweight unfit and slow. In addition Lolohea can't catch can't pass and can't tackle Three attributes that are reasonably essential in the game. On Monday he dropped a simple up and under without being challenged.( Luckily he got away with it because of an offside player ) passed the ball in to touch 3 times sent an awful pass to his winger that was uncatchable and resulted in Kershaw scoring the first try and was swotted off like a tiny fly by a Leeds reject when any decent fullback would have bundled BJB in to touch. So he effectively gave away 10 points that would have otherwise resulted in a victory for the Rhinos. .. and don't say but he scored at the end because Wakefield knew the hooter was about to blow and let him score .

Re: Furner out : Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:06 pm  

ball-in-hand wrote:

Surely Furner us responsible for the overseas recruitment . Both Lolohea and Merin look overweight unfit and slow. In addition Lolohea can't catch can't pass and can't tackle Three attributes that are reasonably essential in the game. On Monday he dropped a simple up and under without being challenged.( Luckily he got away with it because of an offside player ) passed the ball in to touch 3 times sent an awful pass to his winger that was uncatchable and resulted in Kershaw scoring the first try and was swotted off like a tiny fly by a Leeds reject when any decent fullback would have bundled BJB in to touch. So he effectively gave away 10 points that would have otherwise resulted in a victory for the Rhinos. .. and don't say but he scored at the end because Wakefield knew the hooter was about to blow and let him score .

I’m not sure you can blame Sinfield or Furner for signing Tui, he signed before they did.

Merrin does not look overweight, that is his physique, the two Marquee signings have been our best players.

Re: Furner out : Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:32 pm  

I do hate this 'if this had happened then we would be X points better off'. The game is full of tiny mistakes here and there. You can't pin point an exact moment a game was won or lost.

It's a full squad game these days.

Re: Furner out : Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:49 am  

I really don’t think removing Furner will make any difference, the guy has only just got here and we’ve seen how we’ve improved with the ball in a relatively short time. What needs to happen is that the players need to step up, once they have crossed the white line any coach has a limited impact.

It’s not like Furner has the luxury of dropping many people for poor performances either as the quality in the team (never mind the squad) is poor overall so taking people out could also make the situation worse.

The squad of players is seriously restricting the hands of the coach.

Re: Furner out : Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:30 am  

We've improved with the ball... I've heard it all.

Re: Furner out : Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:56 am  

Putting aside the wakey game, for five tackles out of every six I'd say we have. But it's that 6th one that's too often the problem.

Re: Furner out : Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:03 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

We've improved with the ball... I've heard it all.

We have improved with the ball. However, I am not sure it is such a positive. We have changed the way we play, but think that is more down to the players available to him. We don’t have the forwards for playing through the middle for ground, so have to attack differently.

The problem for Furner though, is that he is still trying to polish a turd.

Re: Furner out : Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:54 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

I really don’t think removing Furner will make any difference, the guy has only just got here and we’ve seen how we’ve improved with the ball in a relatively short time. What needs to happen is that the players need to step up, once they have crossed the white line any coach has a limited impact.

It’s not like Furner has the luxury of dropping many people for poor performances either as the quality in the team (never mind the squad) is poor overall so taking people out could also make the situation worse.

The squad of players is seriously restricting the hands of the coach.

Agreed.

Those calling for Furner to be sacked - realistically, which players do you think he should be getting to play better?

Can you also explain how a new coach can make a difference with the same squad at his disposal?