Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:52 pm  

I personally feel Donaldson is a better player than many on here are giving him credit for and will bolster our weak pack.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:08 am  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Trout who did the full 80 when England beat the Aussie Schoolboys?

I think you have read that wrong.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:48 am  

Gotcha wrote:

I think you have read that wrong.

I read it as you pointing to JD taking/rotating Jjb's role which is high work rate & doing big minutes.
Trout does that week in week out , im not not saying he can do it for a full seasson yet or even half but he's capable as a rotation option which is why Burrow was pushing for him to play under Mc.D.
The only other role Jjb does is a leadership role & we now have Merrin to take that role.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:29 am  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

I read it as you pointing to JD taking/rotating Jjb's role which is high work rate & doing big minutes.
Trout does that week in week out , im not not saying he can do it for a full seasson yet or even half but he's capable as a rotation option which is why Burrow was pushing for him to play under Mc.D.
The only other role Jjb does is a leadership role & we now have Merrin to take that role.

And like I said, you read it wrong. JJB and Trout are completely different players.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:15 am  

Gotcha wrote:

And like I said, you read it wrong. JJB and Trout are completely different players.

Explain how Donaldson & Jjb are anywhere similar then rather than dismissing a valid option?

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:27 am  

people keep going on about his size, and yes by modern standards is not a big player in terms of height and weight, but there are plenty players around similar size, Furner was an international back row and is smaller and he was a superb player, Donaldson similar size build to JJb Ward.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:17 pm  

No way is Donaldson bigger than Furner. All those will have 2 or 3 stone on Donaldson.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:18 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Explain how Donaldson & Jjb are anywhere similar then rather than dismissing a valid option?

I was actually clear, the role they would play in the tactics, in the squad, both players could do the same job. Trout is not the same type who could do that job.

Like I said, not all players are the same just because they play the same position. The coach will work his game plan and tactics around those strengths. If you went the Trout route, and I am not saying that would be wrong, then the game plan and usage of players would have to be completely different to that of using JJB or Donaldson.

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:45 pm  

tigertot wrote:

No way is Donaldson bigger than Furner. All those will have 2 or 3 stone on Donaldson.

Furner 5' 10" not sure about weight but probably 14st -14 1/2 st ish JJb 5'11" 15st ish, Ward 6' 1" 14st ish maybe 15st. donalson 5' 11" 14st

Re: IN 2019 | James Donaldson - One Year Deal : Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:43 pm  

After watching him for the last few years, here's my take.

I was disappointed we let him go, but we had a number of players in the similar mould in a similar team and we have recruited size to replace which makes sense. He can slot in a couple of positions even did a stint at hooker for us.

Play him off the bench, especially down to 8 subs. His energy levels and work rate can really lift a team. Need somebody to take drive 1 off your own line against a rushing D, hes your man. Quick play the ball and plenty of mongrel.

He will win you at least 2/3 penalites a game, and he will be up there with most penalties for in the full league. His footwork near the line is good and rarely loses the collision even for someone his size. Defence is decent more technique then smashing somebody. Over your back rows I would have him above ferres, JJB, and potentially todays Ablett ( previous years abletts much better)

He will get a great reception at craven park if he makes the squad as he really is a player you'd want to go to war with. I reckon if he gets a run of games this thread will look completely different in a years time. For what your paying I think it's a bit of a steel, we just had too many of his ilk at rovers and needed to change strategy.