Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:05 pm  

tigertot wrote:

that side ought to be pushing for top 4. But it's not played on paper.

Pushing, but nowhere near good enough for that. Top three is your Saints, Wigan, Warrington, with Hull and Castleford competing for the fourth spot. That side is not good enough, forgetting currently points, to be above those five sides, so top 6 would be the limit of our aspirations anyway with that side.

With that centre pairing though, and the bench, it would still be a push for 6th if the sides below had full teams playing, which thankfully none of them do.

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:14 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Pushing, but nowhere near good enough for that. Top three is your Saints, Wigan, Warrington, with Hull and Castleford competing for the fourth spot. That side is not good enough, forgetting currently points, to be above those five sides, so top 6 would be the limit of our aspirations anyway with that side.

With that centre pairing though, and the bench, it would still be a push for 6th if the sides below had full teams playing, which thankfully none of them do.

Weve beaten Saints and lost to them by a point, same for hull. Weve beaten Warrington and lost to Cas and Wigan by a point so I think the side I posted is more than capable of matching the top 4 sides.

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:25 pm  

christopher wrote:

Weve beaten Saints and lost to them by a point, same for hull. Weve beaten Warrington and lost to Cas and Wigan by a point so I think the side I posted is more than capable of matching the top 4 sides.

Saints & Warrington have better teams & appear better coached. Hull are similar to Leeds, in that they have a cracking squad with a lot of injuries but poorly coached in attack. Wigan are not any better on paper. A full strength Cas is a better team but that is down to their coaching. Leeds should be around 4th, 5th or 6th.

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:52 pm  

christopher wrote:

Weve beaten Saints and lost to them by a point, same for hull. Weve beaten Warrington and lost to Cas and Wigan by a point so I think the side I posted is more than capable of matching the top 4 sides.

And we have lost to Widnes, Huddersfield, and twice to Catalans, what's your point there?

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:11 pm  

christopher wrote:

Weve beaten Saints and lost to them by a point, same for hull. Weve beaten Warrington and lost to Cas and Wigan by a point so I think the side I posted is more than capable of matching the top 4 sides.

Quite so though we're too inconsistent by far to be talking top 4 IMO. Injuries have probably ruled that out, given the lack of structure to the way we play; fair enough. However, I'm not convinced we have anyone capable of controlling games, whether they be one of our injured players or one of our fit ones, in the way stars of our recent past have done.

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:53 pm  

Homer Simpson wrote:

I would say the winning post is the magic 20 points - as in previous years tables for a top 8

Based on the below we will finish 9th

Leeds - POINTS 15 + 2 = 17
Wigan A - LOSS
Castleford A - LOSS
Wakefield H - LOSS
Widnes H - WIN
Salford A - LOSS ?

Salford POINTS 12 + 2 = 14
WarringtonA - LOSS
Hull KR A - LOSS
Castleford H - LOSS
Catalans A - LOSS
Leeds H - WIN

That would be a true coup de grace for 2018- Losing to Salford in a truly must-win game and heading to the middle 8s, where they have nothing to play for

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:01 pm  

ducknumber1 wrote:

That would be a true coup de grace for 2018- Losing to Salford in a truly must-win game and heading to the middle 8s, where they have nothing to play for

I was thinking the same but when you have lost to Huddersfield and Catalans at home (midweek) anything is possible.

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:04 pm  

christopher wrote:

Weve beaten Saints and lost to them by a point, same for hull. Weve beaten Warrington and lost to Cas and Wigan by a point so I think the side I posted is more than capable of matching the top 4 sides.

Points against Catalan 0/4
Points against huds 1/4
Points against Widnes 0/2

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:01 am  

taxi4stevesmith wrote:

Points against Catalan 0/4
Points against huds 1/4
Points against Widnes 0/2

And? Did we have the side I posted in those games, which was my point.

Re: 2018 | The Final 5. : Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:47 am  

would you expect to go unchanged all year? it's a squad game. you're as strong as your weakest player. and we know who that is!
but, like cas do, being highly organised can help massively when you have a depleted side. we look a shambles