Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:02 pm  

kopzach (sp) from Salford is available and is miles better than mullally.he won't be on mega bucks either

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:15 pm  

Maybe a few years ago, but not now. We already have too many over 30s in our pack anyway.

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:20 pm  

is he that old? I thought he was late 20's.
my mistake

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:23 pm  

christopher wrote:

I dunno, anyway that’s not what I meant I meant which players are available for the same amount as they have re-signed for.

I don’t know because like you I don’t know how much they signed for. However I am very confident we could have two better for less. In Walters case I am 100% certain we could have better for less.

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:08 pm  

Wigan move Joel Tomkins on and immediately sign Greenwood

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:28 pm  

Briscoe almost certainly took a pay cut for this new deal and he's, most of the time, reliable. The backline, left centre apart, is one area we are pretty robust so it makes sense to keep steady there if there are relatively big changes elsewhere.

Or, alternatively, perhaps Ryan Hall is leaving....

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:32 pm  

We have some serious sorting out to do with the ageing/injury ravaged pack
Until that area is resolved the backs we have will be irrelevant

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:29 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

christopher wrote:

I dunno, anyway that’s not what I meant I meant which players are available for the same amount as they have re-signed for.

I don’t know because like you I don’t know how much they signed for. However I am very confident we could have two better for less. In Walters case I am 100% certain we could have better for less.

On the Walters front, he'll be one of the lowest paid players in the league, you're certainly not going to get someone with the same amount of experience for that money. Granted he doesn't add anything game breaking, but he does a job when we're short on numbers, and isn't someone who we need to keep happy - he's happy to be a squad man, give his all when he gets a game, and not chelp when he's not getting a game. But he certainly isn't breaking the bank or stopping us signing anyone else.

You can argue he's stopping another young lad getting a game, but McD knows what he can do and he's trusted to come into the team and do his job.

We certainly don't need to worry that his signing is going to stop us signing a superstar.

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:13 pm  

Were not going to sign any superstars so dont build your hopes up. Weve massive commitments that are going to have a financial impact for years to come.

Im sure we will make a couple of signings but it wont be anywhere as dramatic as people think in my opinion. I can see the club giving kids a chance again starting next year. Newman, Holroyd, Johnson and possibly Trout will all step up in first team squad.

Re: Tom Briscoe - New Contract : Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:30 am  

I don't have a problem with only a couple of players coming in and kids getting a go. In the current era where everyone is on longer contracts its hard to replace players en masse, so re-signing Briscoe and Mullally isn't a problem either. Walters is just pointless, as he won't be first 17, will spend most of next year on loan and would just block a kid from a game if he gets picked.

I do have a problem with too many of the older players hanging around when they should leave. Its starting to look like they're all going to hang on until the club calls time, regardless of how little they offer. The problem is you could make a case for keeping any one of the older players, and GH and BM clearly feel they owe them loyalty. But there comes a point when they just become a millstone as they can't play a full season and even when fit are not playing well enough as a group. Whilst loyalty fro the club is important, some of these guys need to have a good look at themselves and call it quits.