Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:49 pm  

Homer Simpson wrote:

just awaiting for Ablett, JJB, Hall and Moon to re-sign, then the 2019 season is looking very good. NOT

Yes what a disaster if we resign the current England winger and current SL top meter maker and the current holder of Leeds player of the year.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:01 am  

Hall I agree - definitely want him to stay. Moon at stand off isn't working very well though is it? If he wants to stay at 6 I wouldn't be that fussed if he left TBH.

As for JJB and Ablett, if you add Delaney and Ferres do you really think its a good idea to go into next year with all of them rather than at least one of them going and replaced by somebody at least physically fit? If we retain all 4 of them then this time next year we'll probably have the oldest pack we've ever had, at a time when athleticism and fitness are increasingly important in the sport. Thats a recipe for players missing games through injuries, playing half fit and generally contributing less than possibly less talented but physically able forwards.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:03 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Am I right in thinking JJB, Ablett, Delaney and Ferres are all out of contract this season? If so we aren't going to let all 4 go. Maybe 2 of them and move Cam Smith up and sign one.

The first 3 are out of contract. Ferres Has a deal to 2019.
I think there is a decent chance at least 2 will go. With possibly 1 staying a year and Ferres off contract next year, I think we should be looking to sign 2 new forwards for 2019 or possibly 1 with a group of young forwards given deals. Smith will get plenty of game time the way injuries hit these days.
Hall and Moon are the other 2 key ones which can impact the salary cap.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:54 am  

I don't think any of JJB, Ablett or Delaney offer us enough when fully fit to retain, even on the basis that each isn't going to realistically feature in more than 50% of games in a season.

On balance Ferres is looking like a bit of a Richie Eyres in his Leeds days... But let's see if he's able to turn his form around after his long spell of injury before writing him off for good.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:19 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

I don't think any of JJB, Ablett or Delaney offer us enough when fully fit to retain, even on the basis that each isn't going to realistically feature in more than 50% of games in a season.

On balance Ferres is looking like a bit of a Richie Eyres in his Leeds days... But let's see if he's able to turn his form around after his long spell of injury before writing him off for good.

if he was as good s Richie eyres i would be happy, he is currently no even as good as Ian Scott from working-ton town.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:35 pm  

poor resigning this for me, offers very littler in attack and suspect defense and under high ball. done nothing since those 5 trys at wembley and not lived up to his potential, when we signed him he was probably second best winger in game behind hall, not even a top 10 winger now. thought we needed to show some ambition not reward mediocrity.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:45 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

poor resigning this for me, offers very littler in attack and suspect defense and under high ball. done nothing since those 5 trys at wembley and not lived up to his potential, when we signed him he was probably second best winger in game behind hall, not even a top 10 winger now. thought we needed to show some ambition not reward mediocrity.

And just who would your replacement be?

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:28 pm  

christopher wrote:

And just who would your replacement be?

Come on Christopher, why do people always trot out that line? There is what 100-120 purely wingers around the globe that you could just offer as names. Why do people seem to think that players in the Leeds team are irreplaceable for some reason? How do other clubs replace theirs?

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:56 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Come on Christopher, why do people always trot out that line? There is what 100-120 purely wingers around the globe that you could just offer as names. Why do people seem to think that players in the Leeds team are irreplaceable for some reason? How do other clubs replace theirs?

exactly, he is a big earner and was a big prestige signing who has not delivered the goods and has been a poor value signing. what about ryan shaw from hull kr, scores trys decent but not spectacular player and a noted goal kicker, bet we could pay him 60% what we pay Briscoe and get a better/good as player. or give Newman a season on the wing to break him into first team.

Re: CONTRACT | Tom Briscoe until 2020 : Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:49 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Come on Christopher, why do people always trot out that line? There is what 100-120 purely wingers around the globe that you could just offer as names. Why do people seem to think that players in the Leeds team are irreplaceable for some reason? How do other clubs replace theirs?

I trotted out that line, because its alright saying get rid but he has to be replaced, who's available? and even if they are available would they come to Leeds. The only people trotting out lines are the people that just say get rid they're past it, a bit like Sal with Peacock in 2011 when he trotted that line out

i don't think players are irreplaceable but if you do get rid they do have to be replaced.

Edited to add, the wingers are not our priority are they and Briscoe has actually been playing well after his challenge cup debacle last year. How do we know what deal he has taken it could be a vastly reduced contract for all we know.